Need web integration

[Forrest]

This probably falls under:
For this version, we are not planning to provide:
Networking or workgroup features

<IMHO>Project management software isn't helpful to me without web integration. If a client is at a video production house and needs to note something on a project, if they can't just connect with a browser and do what needs to be done, suddenly the app has become more work than it's worth. If they have to call, email... they just broke the communication chain of the project. If they're there and need to send me some files, but can't upload it via the web to the PM tool, I just added extra steps for them and burned their time on something that's supposed to make it all easier.

I've got a license for 10 copies of MS Project, and it's not even installed anywhere. Maybe I need to see what's out there for web integration with that and see what we can do. Or perhaps build our own. Plus, forcing a client to install software is not something I like to do. I don't want to troubleshoot MS Project for the client. Nor do I want to pass the buck and have them burn time with MS on it.

The stuff we have now manages the project. Assets, communication between us, communication between us and the client, timelines... are all part of the project. Building in a break in that is just asking for trouble.</IMHO>

[Cortig]

From what I can see,the beta that was just released supports export to HTML at least :)

[Forrest]

From what I can see,the beta that was just released supports export to HTML at least :)

Yeah, I read everything carefully, installed it... <IMHO>export to HTML isn't useful to me at all.</IMHO>

[Cortig]

Yeah, I read everything carefully, installed it... <IMHO>export to HTML isn't useful to me at all.</IMHO>


I see what you mean, but what do you have in mind?? Web-sharing??? That's not a trivial thing to put together.
I guess you'd need a server that all users could access with read-write permissions and a file format that accepts several users working on the same file at the same time…

[Forrest]

I see what you mean, but what do you have in mind?? Web-sharing??? That's not a trivial thing to put together.
I guess you'd need a server that all users could access with read-write permissions and a file format that accepts several users working on the same file at the same time…

The company I work for has already built a project management system that does all this. It's completely web-based. Sure it requires a web server, but it would run on your average $8/mo shared hosting plan.

Edit: *shuffles through discs*
Oh, I have MS Project Server...
*starts installing*
Guess we'll see how that works
*blushes*

[Cortig]

The company I work for has already built a project management system that does all this. It's completely web-based. Sure it requires a web server, but it would run on your average $8/mo shared hosting plan.

Nice! We sure don't have that here.

Edit: *shuffles through discs*
Oh, I have MS Project Server...
*starts installing*
Guess we'll see how that works
*blushes*

I guess you could export to the Project file format and use that then :) (though I've clearly never seen the Project Server running and have no idea how it works - I only recenly installed Project on a PC here to take a look at what OmniPlan migth look like :) ).

[Len Case]

Disclaimer: I'm not on the OmniPlan team...

I think we all know that for large projects, some sort of server/collaboration system is necessary--but we felt there was a need for a "small" project management application and you have to start somewhere. See Gall's law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gall's_law):

Gall's law:
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that worked. A complex system designed from scratch never works and cannot be patched up to make it work. You have to start over with a working simple system.

[Forrest]

That's a very interesting Law. I tend to find the opposite is often true - a complex system derived from that of a smaller system is usually a collection of kludges. That's just been my experience when Marketing is driving milestones.

But it all depends on the system involved. If the groundwork was solid, then it can be built upon. So I tend to think that the vision has to be there first (the more complex system) even if the first iteration is that of a smaller system. But if the smaller system is built without the future in mind, it makes a horrible complex system.

Alas, Project Server may cut it for our internal usage... but when I open it up to clients I have to purchase a new license which is $1500 for five clients... I'd I'd need about 20. So that's not going to work.

[Startyger]

Do you mean Omniweb + a SubEthaEdit-ish type of integration?
I'd like something like that.. though, with the links being in the app.... giving certain parts a more Omnigraffle-ish look with custom images linking to sites, apps, projects, contacts etc. lol that would be quick(efficient: faster user recognition on the display)... and fun lol

[Forrest]

Nope, not quite. SubEthaEdit is just another app. I want something web-based.

[realtyler]

On the question of web export, I can find both Task and Resource Export, but I am not clear how to customize the HTML templates to have the information I want (for example Task status by resource).

Also, it appears that Export > Web Page isn't working for me. I get an error that says:

The document <OmniPlan doc name> could not be saved to <HTML doc name>.

[Lizard]

Please send more details about this error (including console messages or the project you're trying to export, if possible) to omniplan@omnigroup.com

[ruMac]

Disclaimer: I'm not on the OmniPlan team... but we felt there was a need for a "small" project management application and you have to start somewhere.

Just want to but my two cents in here an say "bravo" I think that this is an excellent small project management program. There are certainly a lot of programs out there for managing large projects, but smaller ones with only a few resources (less then 10) are hard to find.

In the past I have tried Process and Merlin and neither really fit my needs. Merlin has nice mac integration, but is really bigger then I need, and Process is to small. Omniplan fits perfectly.

As for web integration, For me, one button .mac posting of the web exports would be excellent so that others on the team that work from other offices can quickly see where we are (I realize that the current webpage export is only a step away from this, but I am spoiled by .mac). I would also love to see Bonjour integration though much like SubEthaEdit or Noteshare so that I could host the program and file but allow colleagues access to update timelines, calendars, resources etc.

Thanks for another great product. :)

[DzynLab]

Personally, I would like to collaborative OmniPlan files that are like SubEtha and CODA where two or more users can access the same file and manipulate the file as needed. Export to HTML or a WebDav-enabled server is fine if all you want people to do is read things. I need people to make changes to show work completed, etc. without them having to email me all the time to say something is done or please update that. I'd need a full-time assistant for that!

[skwirl]

Personally, I would like to collaborative OmniPlan files that are like SubEtha and CODA where two or more users can access the same file and manipulate the file as needed. Export to HTML or a WebDav-enabled server is fine if all you want people to do is read things. I need people to make changes to show work completed, etc. without them having to email me all the time to say something is done or please update that. I'd need a full-time assistant for that!

We have a feature request open for this so I'll add another vote for you.

[enentrup]

Forrest...

I'm using OmniPlan for IN HOUSE work and collaboration, but I have a vendor I work with that uses Basecamp (http://basecamphq.com) to communicate & collaborate with me and my other co-workers.

If you haven't checked this out yet....give it a shot.

That said, I'm pullin' for OmniPlan to replace Basecamp for me completely.

Eric

[Forrest]

I realize I'm posting to an old thread, but I'm curious where things are at now.

I do appreciate the attention to detail that the OG puts into their products. Being able to use the software on platforms you don't support is even more of a requirement now than it was then. And now there's "cloud" hype and a lot of expectation with that.

I really need something that:
- Clients can view, update... portions that are appropriate to them
- Is accessible on any modern mobile device (Windows Mobile support isn't required.)
- Is accessible on Windows desktop clients

And this doesn't really have to do with large projects - heck, even smaller projects it's good for. Especially for freelancers and small businesses.

[Sharcells]

I realize I'm posting to an old thread, but I'm curious where things are at now.

I do appreciate the attention to detail that the OG puts into their products. Being able to use the software on platforms you don't support is even more of a requirement now than it was then. And now there's "cloud" hype and a lot of expectation with that.

I really need something that:
- Clients can view, update... portions that are appropriate to them
- Is accessible on any modern mobile device (Windows Mobile support isn't required.)
- Is accessible on Windows desktop clients

And this doesn't really have to do with large projects - heck, even smaller projects it's good for. Especially for freelancers and small businesses.
Forrest,
did you found any appropriate solution for your issues... I have the exact same problem.

[amarkelo]

Forrest,
did you found any appropriate solution for your issues... I have the exact same problem.

I keep testing OP2 and compare it to Merlin2 and web integration is one of the things that Merlin has.