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amg
2009-04-27, 11:17 AM
Guys :

I just checked this on the forum and didn't get to see anything specific on the subject ... also read the manual, same results ... it seems that other "GTD" tools do it somehow (smart folders and stuff), but nothing related to OF ...

I know perspectives can be very helpfull to combine different "criteria" on a search (very GTD) but, my question is this :

- Can I simply search in OF doing AND / ORs between things I need to find in my next actions (or their notes) ?

I know I can use regular expressions, but that doesn't seem to cover simple ANDs/ ORs ....


It this a "missing feature" ?



Saludos
AM

Ken Case
2009-04-27, 11:22 AM
Smart folders with boolean searches are planned for v2.0. (They're much easier to implement in Leopard, but v1.x still supports Tiger.)

peterlemer
2009-04-27, 01:15 PM
smart folders with boolean searches are planned for v2.0.

yay! :-)

Toadling
2009-04-27, 01:35 PM
@Ken Case: So are smart folders replacing perspectives or being added to existing capabilities?

@amg: As for doing boolean searches now, maybe try finding your items via Spotlight, which already provides support for boolean searches?

-Dennis

amg
2009-04-27, 02:24 PM
@amg: As for doing boolean searches now, maybe try finding your items via Spotlight, which already provides support for boolean searches?

-Dennis

Thanks Ken / Toadling !!!!!

Ken : I totally understand smart folders complications to justify them for 2.0 timeframe ... but (pardon my ignorance) : isn't boolean search something simpler (without smart folders, I mean) ??


Toadling : sadly, spotlight provides a "one document match" (that is "this WHOLE database has a match to your search of A & B search") ... but I don't see how can I get more granular than that !


Saludos
AM

Toadling
2009-04-27, 02:37 PM
sadly, spotlight provides a "one document match" (that is "this WHOLE database has a match to your search of A & B search") ... but I don't see how can I get more granular than that !

Hmm, that's not what I'm seeing. On Leopard, it looks like OmniFocus supports Spotlight searches down to the project level.

For example, I type in a search string in the Finder like this: Chad AND Apache. The Spotlight results then contain all projects in my OmniFocus database that contain the terms "Chad" and "Apache". Double-clicking on one of the "metadata stubs" in Finder opens a new OmniFocus window focused on that project. I can then search from within OmniFocus to narrow the results down to specific actions.

It's maybe not as elegant as being able to do boolean searches entirely within the app, but it might be enough to hold you over until v2.0 surfaces.

-Dennis

Ken Case
2009-04-27, 04:09 PM
@Ken Case: So are smart folders replacing perspectives or being added to existing capabilities?

We're still figuring that out ourselves. We'll have to get a little further along before we'll know for sure.

Ken Case
2009-04-27, 04:12 PM
Ken : I totally understand smart folders complications to justify them for 2.0 timeframe ... but (pardon my ignorance) : isn't boolean search something simpler (without smart folders, I mean) ??

The smart folders are actually the easy bit: we already use smart folders internally to represent things like the Inbox and the "No Context" list.

The harder part is that Leopard provides a standard interface to build up boolean searches, and we can't use that interface unless we require Leopard. We didn't want to require Leopard in OmniFocus v1.x, so we decided to wait for v2.0.

whpalmer4
2009-04-27, 07:17 PM
You seem determined to get me to move over to Leopard full-time :-)

I'm curious what the Omni software update code reports for the breakdown of Tiger vs. Leopard users for the products that still support both. Do you have a feel for how many of your new customers are new Mac users as well? I was struck by Don McAllister's "where are all the Mac users?" comment on the MacRoundTable page. I think the Omni products make a compelling reason for switching!

JKT
2009-04-28, 12:23 AM
I'm curious what the Omni software update code reports for the breakdown of Tiger vs. Leopard users for the products that still support both.

http://update.omnigroup.com/

If I am reading it correctly, 94% of OmniFocus users (that submit their software update details) are already on Leopard.

amg
2009-04-28, 05:27 AM
Hmm, that's not what I'm seeing.
-Dennis

Thx Toadling ! should have been my mistake :-)


Saludos
AM

Toadling
2009-04-28, 08:12 AM
If I am reading it correctly, 94% of OmniFocus users (that submit their software update details) are already on Leopard.

That's pretty amazing. It looks like OmniFocus users have the highest percentage of Leopard use, except for that new kids on the block, OmniGraphSketcher.

Looks like we're ready for OmniFocus 2.0! ;-)

-Dennis

JKT
2009-04-28, 09:13 AM
Well, OmniGraphSketcher doesn't work on 10.4, so it isn't surprising it has 100% Leopard usage.

whpalmer4
2009-04-28, 02:46 PM
http://update.omnigroup.com/

Naturally, I stumbled on a reference to that reading TidBits just a few minutes after posting!

If I am reading it correctly, 94% of OmniFocus users (that submit their software update details) are already on Leopard.
One of the few, the proud, the remaining 6 percent! I really ought to bite the bullet and upgrade one of these days so I'm not forced into it by an OmniFocus 2.0 sneaky peek appearing! :-)

Brian
2009-04-29, 01:26 PM
Interesting but not really relevant posts moved to their own thread (http://forums.omnigroup.com/showthread.php?t=12060) in the lounge. :-)