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markettrue
2006-10-02, 11:28 AM
New Feature Request:

New Icon.

I keep on confusing you icon with Rosetta Stones (language learning).

Can we get creative? Your current logo is having a negative impact on a superior product.

Take a look at Firefox, Shiira, even IE7's logos. They look like they belong on the web.

If you are really desperate, go to Clipart.com and buy one!



Thank you.

markettrue
2006-10-02, 11:33 AM
Actually, you could have a contest. There are so many insanely great creative mac people out there. It would be fun and give you great press.

andreas_g
2006-10-02, 11:52 AM
i did like the logos of omniweb 4.x (but not 4.5)
the logo of omniweb 5 is ok
but i would really like something like ow 4's icon because it was more aqua-like
i dislike firefox' and ie's icon.

JKT
2006-10-02, 12:02 PM
Given that the FireFox icon was designed by John Hicks, who is (was?) also a keen OmniWeb person, you could try persuading him to design one... though he would have trouble beating the HallOWeen one from yoinks ago - still the best ;):

http://homepage.mac.com/jtyzack/.Pictures/screenshots/HallOWeen.jpg

markettrue
2006-10-02, 01:31 PM
Yes,

The OmniWeb 4 icon is better:
http://www.1on1.com/images/omniweb.jpg

How about OmniWeb 2?
http://www.1on1.com/images/OmniWeb-2.0.gif

"Not too Shabby"
Shades of Netscape.
Was this animated?

markettrue
2006-10-02, 01:35 PM
That's it Jonathan!

Seasonal changing icons and logos!

via Google's home page.

Would that be cool or what!!!!

Ok, I have go to get back to work.

JKT
2006-10-02, 01:58 PM
The OmniWeb 4 icon is better:
http://www.1on1.com/images/omniweb.jpg

Personally, I never really liked that icon - the shading always looked a little weird to me. I much preferred Rickster's Blue and Ice one for colour scheme and style (but it is too US [Edit: Americas-] centric for a world.wide.web application):

http://homepage.mac.com/jtyzack/.Pictures/screenshots/OWB+I.jpg

JKT
2006-10-02, 01:59 PM
FWIW, you can still get Rickster's replacement icons (including the halloween one) from http://www.icons.cx/

Forrest
2006-10-02, 03:01 PM
(but it is too US [Edit: Americas-] centric for a world.wide.web application):

http://homepage.mac.com/jtyzack/.Pictures/screenshots/OWB+I.jpg


There's going to be an issue like that no matter what when a globe is used. Asia is nowhere to be found on the current one. It could be called too "Atlantic centric."

Len Case
2006-10-02, 04:36 PM
There's going to be an issue like that no matter what when a globe is used. Asia is nowhere to be found on the current one. It could be called too "Atlantic centric."
We tried centering the Pacific, but then you see hardly any land except Hawaii--the Pacific is just too big.

We did at one point consider using the time zone setting on your computer (including city location) to orient the globe and render it on the fly... (the artists weren't too happy with that idea since they like to tweak the pixels afterwards)

Forrest
2006-10-02, 06:04 PM
We tried centering the Pacific, but then you see hardly any land except Hawaii--the Pacific is just too big.

We did at one point consider using the time zone setting on your computer (including city location) to orient the globe and render it on the fly... (the artists weren't too happy with that idea since they like to tweak the pixels afterwards)

Just to clarify, I didn't mean to make it sound like I was upset it was Atlantic-centric, just that no matter what part of the globe it focuses on, the majority of the globe will be barely visible or not visible at all.

The rotating globe idea sounds interesting, but I don't know how much works it takes.

markettrue
2006-10-02, 08:32 PM
Yes, Len, It's amazing when you visit another country how the world maps look so different than you are used to.

Personally, I never really liked that icon - the shading always looked a little weird to me. I much preferred Rickster's Blue and Ice one for colour scheme and style (but it is too US [Edit: Americas-] centric for a world.wide.web application):

http://homepage.mac.com/jtyzack/.Pictures/screenshots/OWB+I.jpg

I like the logo above also: crisp, cool, and fresh. The colors and shadows are great. Because of the varioius "world views" I'm thinking it needs to be more abstract.


like Camino:
http://www.1on1.com/images/temp.camino.jpg
without the compass.

Or ATT:
http://www.1on1.com/images/temp.att.jpg
which is a bit much.

daiyi666@yahoo.com
2006-10-02, 09:36 PM
We did at one point consider using the time zone setting on your computer (including city location) to orient the globe and render it on the fly... (the artists weren't too happy with that idea since they like to tweak the pixels afterwards)

Brilliant, even if it was not used.

JKT
2006-10-02, 11:36 PM
<snip>... just that no matter what part of the globe it focuses on, the majority of the globe will be barely visible or not visible at all.<snip>
A view from the geometric North pole would get most of the Earth's land mass, as the majority is in the Northern hemisphere. Not so sure the antipodeans would appreciate it though! :p

TommyW
2006-10-03, 12:19 AM
I'll vote for a change too...

FWIW Speaking as a European (ahem) the world map with the US in the middle always looked odd to me. You have to chop the rest of the world's landmass in half. Something odd about that...

But hey.

I like the idea of an icon that writes itself on installation... and then changes if it detects a new timezone when launched.

philonous
2006-10-03, 08:47 AM
I like the idea of an icon that writes itself on installation... and then changes if it detects a new timezone when launched.

The American business mantra is, after all, the customer is always right.

Wherever the customer may be situated. :)

Forrest
2006-10-03, 09:18 AM
The American business mantra is, after all, the customer is always right.

Hehe, it's more like "The customer is always right, unless they're wrong."

Jon Hicks
2006-10-03, 12:49 PM
Given that the FireFox icon was designed by John Hicks, who is (was?) also a keen OmniWeb person, you could try persuading him to design one...

Yup, I'm still very much a keen Omniweb user (I never use Firefox, even for web development). A few years ago I did a replacement icon that was based on the famous painting 'The Great Wave":

http://hicksdesign.co.uk/else/images/appicon.png

I still like the idea, but it needs a lot of tidying up as an icon. Actually a while back I had a think about what my ideal job would be, and it was to work on Omniweb (http://www.hicksdesign.co.uk/journal/dream-commission).

;)

markettrue
2006-10-03, 07:37 PM
Yup, I'm still very much a keen Omniweb user (I never use Firefox, even for web development). A few years ago I did a replacement icon that was based on the famous painting 'The Great Wave":

http://hicksdesign.co.uk/else/images/appicon.png

I still like the idea, but it needs a lot of tidying up as an icon. Actually a while back I had a think about what my ideal job would be, and it was to work on Omniweb (http://www.hicksdesign.co.uk/journal/dream-commission).

;)

I like the concept and the colors. It does need some cleaning up but not alot. The more I think about the more I like it.

markettrue
2006-10-03, 07:41 PM
The end of the waves need to be cleaned up, but the bottom is perfect.

Forrest
2006-10-03, 08:31 PM
Honestly, a tsunami isn't the most positive image. Some people may see it and instantly think of piles of dead bodies.

Edit: now that I think about it, it might be an appropriate icon for Internet Explorer ;)

Jon Hicks
2006-10-04, 12:58 AM
Hmmm, why a tsunami? Why can't it just be a wave?

markettrue
2006-10-04, 07:55 AM
Yes, a wave, as in Interent Surfing. Also, some of Japan's great works of art are of tsunami.

xbandaidx
2006-10-04, 11:23 AM
I agree with the original thread starter.

I keep getting my OmniWeb icon confused with the Rosetta Stone icon.

JKT
2006-10-04, 11:31 AM
Bear in mind that the OmniWeb icon "brand" has always been an image of the globe (i.e. Earth) afaik, so to use something else would be quite a sea change (so-to-speak) ;)

Forrest
2006-10-04, 12:12 PM
How about something like a digital wave encompassing a globe?

When I see that wave icon, I think of something like this:
http://www.unesco.org/csi/pub/papers3/sande67.jpg

markettrue
2006-10-04, 12:52 PM
"Bear in mind that the OmniWeb icon "brand" has always been an image of the globe (i.e. Earth) afaik, so to use something else would be quite a sea change (so-to-speak)"

Lets take a look at the progression of the Omni Group corporate logo:
http://www.1on1.com/images/o1.gif

http://www.1on1.com/images/o2.gif

http://www.1on1.com/images/o3.jpg

http://www.1on1.com/images/o4.jpg

As you see by the above graphics, the initial corporate logo in 1996 is earth mapping centric. However, as you move forward in time, the logo becomes somewhat abstract. Precedence has been set. The Omni Group site itself has pretty good graphics. A abstract OmniWeb logo would solve technical (different image by time zone), geographical (world views), logo similarities (Rosetta Stone language), and be perceived as modern.

The world globe, as a web logo, was rendered obsolete in 1996 when Microsoft IE 3 was released.

Len Case
2006-10-05, 01:06 PM
I hate to say it, but the first two Omni logo's don't have earth maps--that is just the default RenderMan marble texture.

jayare
2006-10-14, 08:42 PM
I'd be opposed to Yet Another Blue and White Icon, on the grounds that Mail.app, iChat, and (now) iTunes all have b&w icons. Probably other apps as well, but these are all very common ones. I'm starting to have to pay a lot more attention to which icon is which in my Dock.

zottel
2006-10-15, 07:22 AM
Actually, I also mistook the OW icon for the Rosetta Stone icon when I first started using OW. I solved the problem by placing the icons far from each other—I know that the OW is near the top whereas the Rosetta Stone icon is near the bottom. :-)

Handycam
2006-10-16, 05:54 AM
IMHO, the best browser icon out right now is Fx. The juxtaposition of the orange fox and the blue globe gives the icon dimensionality, while also looking equally good across platforms. I personally hate "aqua-fied" icons, with lots of gel and blue transparency. Despite its blue, Camino also has a nice icon, emaphasizing the connections of the WWW over the geography, and further combined with the "compass" metaphor.

I find the current OW icon a bit dated. I can continue to live with it, but my recommendation would be to hire Jon Hicks and turn him loose on it!

Stashie
2006-10-16, 09:59 AM
I second that!

:)

Ilgaz
2006-10-26, 04:37 AM
You people should take a look at
http://www.icons.cx/icons/

There are some excellent Omniweb icons there.

While there is a single icon , Amar's "Plastic Internet Apps" is a state of art:

http://amarsagoo.info/design/icons/index.shtml

Look at the Omniweb icon there.

jimlongo
2006-10-27, 03:58 AM
IMHO, the best browser icon out right now is Fx. The juxtaposition of the orange fox and the blue globe gives the icon dimensionality, while also looking equally good across platforms. I personally hate "aqua-fied" icons, with lots of gel and blue transparency. Despite its blue, Camino also has a nice icon, emaphasizing the connections of the WWW over the geography, and further combined with the "compass" metaphor.

Just goes to show there's no accounting for taste :)
I think the FF icon is the worst one on my dock. It looks like an icon for the Romulan Senate.

Jon Hicks
2006-10-27, 08:57 AM
Meeow! ;o)

Forrest
2006-10-27, 09:30 AM
Meeow! ;o)

Hehe. So is this the first person you've found that didn't like it? I'm sure it's not, but you probably did just find another one in a million.

zottel
2006-10-27, 12:55 PM
Anyway—more than just a globe wouldn't be bad, imho. There are so many applications where a globe would be appropriate, so why not find sth more distinctive?

OTOH—personally, I don't care at all about the icon an application uses. So maybe it's not really important. If I were the one in charge, though, I'd try to find sth that's more distinctive than a globe. :-)

Jon Hicks
2006-10-28, 09:00 AM
Hehe. So is this the first person you've found that didn't like it? I'm sure it's not, but you probably did just find another one in a million.

He, course not. It was the über-geeky 'Romulan Senate' insult that made me chuckle! :D

Forrest
2006-10-28, 08:15 PM
He, course not. It was the über-geeky 'Romulan Senate' insult that made me chuckle! :D

Yeah, that was kind of White and Nerdy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkhMcyuYroA) ;)