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andreas_g
2006-05-23, 12:30 AM
"We will now prefer to un-minimize browser windows from the dock rather than creating new browser windows when you switch into OmniWeb."
i finally found it in the release notes of "omniweb 5.0 beta 4" under "other" > "interface"
i really think this was a backwards-step for omniweb, requiering me to always re-minimize the upcoming window and making a new one by pressing cmd-n!
please, omnigroup, undo this. if i want to get a minimized window, i will click it in the dock.

still i think, omniweb is great work, and maybe the best browser on any platform.

Forrest
2006-05-23, 08:11 AM
There's a pref under tabs and windows that prevents the window from un-docking.

andreas_g
2006-05-23, 08:24 AM
i know .. but then i still have to manually open a new browser window. even if no window is open in omniweb.

in omniweb 4 and early 5 betas it presented a new window, when the omniweb-dock-icon was clicked. and it didn't un-minimize windows that were in the dock, except you clicked them.

at present it is not possible to open a new browser window - if another window is in the dock - without using cmd-n (or file menu)

summary:
- new window when omniweb's dock icon is clicked (!)
- no un-minimizing when omniweb's icon is clicked
- un-minimizing only if minimized window is clicked in the dock

afb
2006-05-24, 07:41 PM
I wonder if I could add to this a related suggestion, which may be what this means:
un-minimizing only if minimized window is clicked in the dock
It'd be nice if there were a pref to keep minimized windows from being the windows that open links from other apps. Often when there are lots of windows OW will open external links not in the front browser but in one of the minimized windows.

andreas_g
2006-05-25, 03:56 AM
@ afb: i never notized that
what have you set the "tab & window" prefs set to ?

afb
2006-05-25, 01:47 PM
I've got "Present a window when OW starts" checked, and "Don't show a window when OW's icon is clicked". And "Open links from other applications in A new tab."

I only really notice it when I've got a lot of windows open, and I think more than one minimized.

andreas_g
2006-05-27, 05:19 AM
would be interesting to know what other people think about window un-minimizing vs creating new windows, as described in my first and second thread.

JKT
2006-05-27, 07:53 AM
I've barely minimised a window at all (in any application) since the advent of Exposť so, frankly, I don't care ;)

Forrest
2006-05-27, 08:21 AM
Similar to JKT. I rarely minimize windows.

sachiwilson
2006-06-03, 01:15 AM
Out of curiosity, what size monitors are you using? I have a Macbook, so I have a small screen. I personally love small screens (my previous favorite Mac was an iceBook) and on those, even with Expose it's hard to manage multiple windows without minimizing them. I agree with parent -- on many occasions I click the Omniweb icon in the dock with the intention of spawning a new window, but cause one of the minimized windows to appear from the dock. I need to re-minimize that window and open a new one. If there could be an explicit preference to open a new window instead of maximizing minimized windows, I think it could be beneficial.

Forrest
2006-06-03, 07:40 AM
On my main machine I have one 1920x1200 and one 1600x1200. I have a 12" PB too. I don't tend to minimize on either.

andreas_g
2006-06-03, 09:00 AM
i have a 12" iBook G3 (white) and minimizing windows is essential for me (1024x768 resolution).
i prefer minimizing windows because exposť is quite slow on my G3.
i hope omnigroup adds the requested feature as a prefernce for people like me.

JKT
2006-06-04, 12:10 PM
Out of curiosity, what size monitors are you using? I have a Macbook, so I have a small screen.
Same resolution as your MacBook (near enough) but 15" screen.

andreas_g
2006-08-25, 08:22 AM
thanks a lot for the new hidden default. it now works the way i like it!
really great, thank you, omnigroup!

Schlaefer
2007-05-14, 02:49 AM
thanks a lot for the new hidden default. it now works the way i like it!
really great, thank you, omnigroup!

Where is this hidden default or what is the property string/value?

andreas_g
2007-05-14, 09:09 AM
@ schlaefer:

just use the terminal and type "defaults write com.omnigroup.OmniWeb5 OWLeaveMinimizedWindowsAlone -bool true"

now if you click the OW dockicon a new window will come up (if there is no active window)

TommyW
2007-05-14, 09:59 AM
Check out Sticky Windows...

http://www.donelleschi.com/stickywindows/

Schlaefer
2007-05-14, 10:14 AM
@anderas_g: Thanks.

I wish there would be a OS X system wide pref for this.

MacKevG
2007-06-13, 12:52 PM
well... andreas_g uses an 12" iBook, so something rather really small.

I am on a 17" iMac, but I am using VirtueDesktops, and have 3 virtual screens, one for OmniWeb, where OmniWeb is sized all over the screen.

I am agreeing with andreas_g in every point. Think it's much better that way.