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technomage 2008-11-04 07:40 AM

PNG transparency?
 
Looks like there is a rendering issue with .png transparency specific to OW. Compare how navigation button images render as white boxes over the gallery image versus Safari [URL="http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/japanesetuners1/1004351362?viewSize=thumb800x800"]http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/japanesetuners1/1004351362?viewSize=thumb800x800[/URL] (my apologies for the choice of gallery). This is standard code for other galleries hosted by gawker.com.

troyb 2008-11-04 08:03 AM

These seem to be rendering okay for me here. Are you still having trouble with this?

technomage 2008-11-04 03:16 PM

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[QUOTE=troyb;50123]These seem to be rendering okay for me here. Are you still having trouble with this?[/QUOTE]

No. Please see attached screen caps of the gallery navigation section taken with OW and with Safari. The white boxes should be transparent with just the black arrows showing on hover. OW shows the hover arrow correctly but does not render the overlay image correctly. I've tried this both with and without any ad block settings active and on two different machines.

Craig

troyb 2008-11-04 04:51 PM

Hmmm, not sure what's going on here, they definitely render okay for me here. What version of OmniWeb are you using here?

JKT 2008-11-05 01:12 AM

It works for me too... Are you blocking any images in your Ad blocking preferences that might cause this to happen?

technomage 2008-11-05 02:49 PM

[QUOTE=JKT;50201]It works for me too... Are you blocking any images in your Ad blocking preferences that might cause this to happen?[/QUOTE]

Per my original post, this was reproducible with ad-blocking enabled OR disabled completely with caches flushed and restarting OW to verify nothing resident in memory. Current OW release version with behavior observed under MacOS 10.5.5 and 10.4.11.

Based on the feedback in this thread, I played around with other settings and found what is causing this. I have colors set to override page styles by default, (jalopnik is unreadable, otherwise) and this somehow produces this rendering artifact. I get correct rendering if I disable my preferred text and link colors. I'm not applying a stylesheet, so I'm baffled why this setting should produce this result. Using a custom stylesheet just for link colors in Safari and setting backgroud/link colors in Firefox does not do this. This would seem to be bugged.

whpalmer4 2008-11-05 05:04 PM

[QUOTE=technomage;50260] I have colors set to override page styles by default, (jalopnik is unreadable, otherwise) and this somehow produces this rendering artifact. [/QUOTE]

jalopnik is [url]http://www.jalopnik.com[/url]? I'm looking at it without any browser customization whatsoever, and I don't quite understand what is unreadable about it...care to post an annotated screenshot?

JKT 2008-11-05 11:48 PM

Perhaps the poster has a colour blindness issue that prevents them from seeing the text clearly, much like I apparently have a attention span issue which prevents me from finishing reading posts before answering them... sorry about that ;).

Temporary fix - just set custom colours for jalopnik.com using the site specific preferences, rather than changing the defaults for all sites.

Edit: Doh.... which won't help at all as that is the site where you are having the problem. Ugh.

JKT 2008-11-05 11:57 PM

Fwiw, I can reproduce the problem that technomage is having. Overriding the styles on the site and using e.g. high contrast or IE colours will cause the problem to occur.

Handycam 2008-11-06 03:05 AM

yes, i have seen this as well when forcing an override. I almost never use that feature, instead I use a CSS file to enforce what I want. That seems to be fine.

technomage 2008-11-06 03:10 PM

[QUOTE=JKT;50290]Perhaps the poster has a colour blindness issue that prevents them from seeing the text clearly.[/QUOTE]

This is not so much an issue with color blindness as an issue with sites that opt for egregious, low-contrast color combinations like jalopnik (light green/beige text on grey background), use of horrific background images (think myspace) and use of non-standard link colors. Hence my preference for a universal override. Call me old-fashioned, but I have no patience for anything but sans-serif, black text on an appropriate high-contrast background (ref. David Siegel). I spend 8+ hours a day in front of a computer that eyestrain is a genuine concern. Unfortunately, I've yet to find an effective custom stylesheet override for OW which can substitute for a global setting. Safari's css override handling and Firefox's apprearance preferences behave as expected, while OW's do not. Having said that, I wouldn't even consider trading OW as my primary browser for either of these options.


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