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n8henrie 2012-01-21 08:52 PM

OmniFocus iCloud Capture on iPhone 4
 
Hi everyone,
I was very excited to see the Siri -> OF via Reminders addition to OF iPhone. I'm disappointed that the switch to turn on iCloud Reminders just doesn't exist on an iPhone 4.

Even without Siri, I would like to be able to add Reminders that are automatically imported into OF; Reminders integration into iCal, and shared Reminders lists would open up a lot of opportunities (perhaps a shared Reminders list with my girlfriend that would import into her OF, and a separate shared list for me, whereby we could add events to each other's OF).

Additionally, the Siri -> OF integration could be a major selling point if I decide to upgrade to a 4S. I'd really like to try out the feature, even if just by typing in Reminders and seeing how well they get imported to OF.

Anyway, because the iPhone 4 and 4S are essentially running the same version of OF, I was wondering if there is a way to enable the iCloud Reminders function on an iPhone 4? How does OF iPhone tell whether it is running on a 4 or 4S? If I were to jailbreak would it be possible? Perhaps some .plist editing or something?

n8henrie 2012-01-23 08:27 PM

Got it. In the info.plist in OmniFocus (edit: iPhone) app, there's a key named something like "debugSiri" set to "/false". Replace "/false" with "/true" and the iCloud capture option becomes available and works like a charm. I think there are ways to do this without jailbreaking, but I just went ahead. Disclaimer: jailbreaking could brick your device, lose all your data, cause global warming, etc. etc.

Just tested, and I can now add tasks through my iPad (on my shared OmniFocus list in the Reminders app), and they are synced through iCloud and appear on OmniFocus iPhone on next launch. Brilliant!

I imagine that adding my roommate or girlfriend to this shared Reminders list will let them add tasks to my OmniFocus, which really takes it up another notch (the implementation of sharing is one of my only bits of grief with OmniFocus).

Anyway, I hope this info.plist tidbit is helpful. I did have to reset the key in question after today's update, but it took ~5 seconds. And I hope posting this doesn't anger the OmniPowers that be. I'm pretty excited to have found a new way to use OF on my trusty iPhone 4, and I honestly don't see why this shouldn't be made a user-configurable option in the first place. Omni has already done the work to code it into the existing app, why not let it be enjoyed by all? Siri or not, it's nice to have the two apps working together.

pastorhudson 2012-01-24 05:08 AM

[QUOTE=n8henrie;106471]Got it. In the info.plist in OmniFocus (edit: iPhone) app, there's a key named something like "debugSiri" set to "/false". Replace "/false" with "/true" and the iCloud capture option becomes available and works like a charm. I think there are ways to do this without jailbreaking, but I just went ahead. Disclaimer: jailbreaking could brick your device, lose all your data, cause global warming, etc. etc.

Just tested, and I can now add tasks through my iPad (on my shared OmniFocus list in the Reminders app), and they are synced through iCloud and appear on OmniFocus iPhone on next launch. Brilliant!

I imagine that adding my roommate or girlfriend to this shared Reminders list will let them add tasks to my OmniFocus, which really takes it up another notch (the implementation of sharing is one of my only bits of grief with OmniFocus).

Anyway, I hope this info.plist tidbit is helpful. I did have to reset the key in question after today's update, but it took ~5 seconds. And I hope posting this doesn't anger the OmniPowers that be. I'm pretty excited to have found a new way to use OF on my trusty iPhone 4, and I honestly don't see why this shouldn't be made a user-configurable option in the first place. Omni has already done the work to code it into the existing app, why not let it be enjoyed by all? Siri or not, it's nice to have the two apps working together.[/QUOTE]

Thank You! I went poking around for this when I first got my *cough*siriproxy*cough* working. I was unable to find the switch to turn on the icloud sync in the plist. Great Job!

amelchi 2012-01-25 06:44 AM

[QUOTE=n8henrie;106471]Got it. In the info.plist in OmniFocus (edit: iPhone) app, [/QUOTE]

you mean on a jailbroken IP4?

thanks

amelchi

lonepalm 2012-01-25 12:48 PM

iCloud, Siri, OF and iPhone 4S is wonderful. The issue I'm having is that when you create a reminder (using Siri of course), it get picked up in OF and subsequently gets deleted from the Reminder App. This creates a problem for me as I cannot see my reminders on my Mac (ie. in iCal) and cannot see them in my reminders App in all my IOS devices. I would like OF to leave the reminders intact so they still appear in the Reminder App and in iCal.

n8henrie 2012-02-01 06:00 PM

Glad to hear this has been helpful to some people. Been an enjoyable feature for me to use as well. My only problem is the new [URL="http://forums.omnigroup.com/showthread.php?t=23359"][U]"Untitled item" bug[/U][/URL] that appears to be not at all Omni's fault.

@lonepalm: You can still seem them in OF, though, right? Isn't that the point? I would be upset if they were left in Reminders, because then I'd have to check off all my items twice.

wilsonng 2012-02-07 02:47 AM

It would be more clutter for you if there was a reminder as well an omnifocus task. That would be two things that you'd have to check off instead of just one.

I'd personally rather keep it in OmniFocus rather than reminders. In GTD terminology, everything has its place. If a task appears twice then that's more work for me to manage.

Benipres 2012-02-12 04:00 AM

[QUOTE=n8henrie;106471]Got it. In the info.plist in OmniFocus (edit: iPhone) app, there's a key named something like "debugSiri" set to "/false". Replace "/false" with "/true" and the iCloud capture option becomes available and works like a charm. I think there are ways to do this without jailbreaking, but I just went ahead. Disclaimer: jailbreaking could brick your device, lose all your data, cause global warming, etc. etc.

Just tested, and I can now add tasks through my iPad (on my shared OmniFocus list in the Reminders app), and they are synced through iCloud and appear on OmniFocus iPhone on next launch. Brilliant!

I imagine that adding my roommate or girlfriend to this shared Reminders list will let them add tasks to my OmniFocus, which really takes it up another notch (the implementation of sharing is one of my only bits of grief with OmniFocus).

Anyway, I hope this info.plist tidbit is helpful. I did have to reset the key in question after today's update, but it took ~5 seconds. And I hope posting this doesn't anger the OmniPowers that be. I'm pretty excited to have found a new way to use OF on my trusty iPhone 4, and I honestly don't see why this shouldn't be made a user-configurable option in the first place. Omni has already done the work to code it into the existing app, why not let it be enjoyed by all? Siri or not, it's nice to have the two apps working together.[/QUOTE]

I did find the info.plist and changed the debugsiricapture from false to true but it doesnt make visible iCloud capture on omnifocus settings.. I have iPhone 4 with Siri and jail broken.. Please if you can give more details how to do this..

Thanks

umeuph 2012-02-13 12:26 AM

Walk through?
 
Thanks to n8henrie for figuring this out. I have been successful porting siri to my iphone 4 and would love to get this functionality, but I'm not totally sure how to change the key you're referring to. Would it be possible for you to tell us exactly how you did it? Sorry for the nOOb question... :)

n8henrie 2012-02-14 10:03 AM

Caveat emptor.

@Benipres: I have no idea. I'm sure Omni has good reasons for making this setting unavailable as a default. Try a reboot and make sure the .plist retained the change (maybe you forgot to save the change). Try clearing out all the backgrounded apps first. Otherwise, I don't know what's going on.

@umeuph: I really don't know how to be more specific. If you've successfully made the mods you listed, I would expect you to have the skills necessary to do a little .plist editing. If you don't know what a .plist is or how to edit one, you probably shouldn't mess with this.

Again, I'm sure Omni left this out for a reason, and I wouldn't want to spite them by posting the how-to on their own forum. They make great products, and I wouldn't want to risk compromising my standing with them.

That said, if they were to post their approval in this thread, I'd be more than happy to do an in-depth walkthrough here.

Brian 2012-02-14 02:03 PM

I understand why folks want this, and if folks do manage to get it working on the hardware they purchased, that's their business.

That said, encouraging folks to do something that voids the warranty on their hardware is not something we endorse or support. We're not going to shut down the thread or think less of anyone that participates, but we also aren't going to offer any sort of support or assistance.

Once you modify your system beyond the bounds of the configuration it was designed to function in, you're in "on your own" territory. Moving this to the Omni Lounge so there's no confusion between the discussion going on here and the official support channels.

n8henrie 2012-02-19 05:30 AM

For people that are having trouble getting this working, try turning on the debugsirioverride switch as well. It seemed to work without this before, but with the latest update I seem to need both Siri keys turned on to make things work.

n8henrie 2012-02-19 05:30 AM

Thanks for the heads up and the thread move, Brian. Luckily, my manufacturer warranty has already expired, and my 3rd party warranty covers jailbroken devices, but I agree that for most folks jailbreaking is unnecessary and risky. I wouldn't expect Omni to provide any support (tech, moral, or otherwise) for this.

ikemstar 2012-03-17 03:30 AM

Editing this file makes the app hang for me, for some reason. I'm using iFile - any tips you have on getting this working are appreciated. And yes, I am changing both keys to "true"
O! Omnipotent OmniGods, please forgive us for this thread. We simply cannot wait for our upgrade to the New iPhone ;-) for this essential feature.

<key>DebugEnableSiriOverride</key>
* * * * <true/>
* * * * <key>DebugForecastController</key>
* * * * <false/>
* * * * <key>DebugSiriCapture</key>
* * * * <true/>

n8henrie 2012-03-18 10:35 AM

No idea. Can you be more specific with the word "hang"?

ikemstar 2012-03-18 11:53 AM

iCloud capture becomes available - awesome! - but after any activity shortly thereafter such as drilling into a few contexts causes the app to freeze, and then crash.
Setting the keys to their default state seems not to rectify it either, I can't just "go back." I had to delete and re-install it. Perhaps I should try again, but it's happened twice now. Any ideas?

n8henrie 2012-03-19 04:46 AM

This may be due to a recent change on Apple's side that produces an iCloud Capture bug (see Omni's recent tweets about the problem). Nothing to do with OF iPhone, iFile, JB, or tweaking the .plist. Everyone (JB or not) has been asked to turn off iCloud capture for this reason until the updated OF iPhone app gets approved (they submitted it Wednesday and it still hasn't gotten through Apple). Once the new app is out, I expect we'll be able to turn iCloud capture back on again.

aurora 2012-11-09 10:37 PM

it works for me, thanks!

But i like to Sync not from iCloud reminder list, but from my Exchange task list as described in:

[url]http://tobolaski.com/blog/2012/adding-tasks-to-omnifocus-from-windows/[/url]

Is there a way to enable Capture Reminders instead of iCloud Reminders?

n8henrie 2013-02-07 05:16 AM

Sorry it took me so long to see your post, Aurora. I don't know [I]how[/I], but I saw a YouTube proof-of-concept video the other day that had a guy running a script that imported from Reminders (on OSX) to OmniFocus. Here's the link: [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jcfESHP2hQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jcfESHP2hQ[/URL]

jonfish 2013-06-18 12:17 PM

Omni - if you are listening - please could you enable this for all iPhones? There doesn't seem much reason for hiding it by default. I don't use or need Siri, but I do use [URL="http://themeetingsapp.com"]the Meetings app [/URL] to record meeting agenda items and sync them to Reminders. It would be great if Omnifocus could import these.

I don't really want to jailbreak just for this!

n8henrie 2013-06-19 05:23 AM

You may be able to edit the .plist in question with [URL="http://i-funbox.com/ifunboxmac/"]iFunBox[/URL] without needing to jailbreak. You won't have Siri obviously, so it may or may not work, but you may be able to enable Reminders capture without Siri.


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