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kimomni 2008-01-24 05:11 AM

(flagged tasks) and (due dates for today) perspective window needed
 
I must be missing this major need in Omni.

I use flagging for parts of projects which have pieces that can be done at any moment, according to my mood.

I also have reoccuring projects (rooms of the house to clean) and reoccuring tasks (downloading Paypal History to Quickbooks) These come due at certain dates.

How can I set up one window that shows all of my flagged items and all of my items that have due dates for today?

Thanks

ptone 2008-01-24 09:08 AM

Although it won't show you only things due today, you can switch to context view, set the Group By filter to "Due date", set the sort filter to project, and the flag filter to show only flagged.

You can then collapse the due by groups that aren't "due today"

-P

kimomni 2008-01-24 10:11 AM

I need both flagged (and/or) due.
 
This is only showing up tasks that are due, if the due task has been manually flagged.

I need both flagged (and/or) due.

Thanks for your help

jeremydb 2008-01-25 02:23 AM

AND searches are, IMO, sorely lacking in OF. I like the idea of Perspectives, but I can't partition my tasks/priorities into such exclusive criteria. Switching between different Perspectives in order to see all the information you really need to see in one place is inconvenient. In any case, I hope v.1.1+ will permit more complex Perspectives.

kimomni 2008-01-27 11:43 AM

Waiting....
 
Is this being addressed?

It would be nice to be able to have one window(perspective) that will show everything due that day:
both flagged tasks, and tasks that become due automatically (without flags).

sfkeydel 2008-01-27 02:47 PM

I, too, would like to see this. I've been toying a bit with Things, which offers a very clean 'Today' view. GTD orthodoxy be durned-- I think this is a good idea.

sabeke 2008-01-28 04:19 AM

[QUOTE=kimomni;31788]This is only showing up tasks that are due, if the due task has been manually flagged.

I need both flagged (and/or) due.

Thanks for your help[/QUOTE]

I agree. I came to the forum just now to ask this same question but see that kimomni already did. Please consider adding a "Flagged/Due" switch.

TIA!

kimomni 2008-01-28 02:24 PM

Yes, every idea can be improved; especially when it comes to importing an idea process, into a software.

To be able to tag items you want to do right away, saves from having to constantly redo your projects. I'm sure that is why you included it.

This software would be much more user friendly if you combine both manual and automatic additions into ONE to-do list.

It would be nice to be able to have ONE list that shows only flagged, next action, and tasks that have a due date for today. Everyone of those should be on the to-do list for today. One List.

I'm pretty much at a stand still with my projects because of this. I'm having to spend too much time *everyday* going over each project and container to see if there is something I'm not seeing. Call it a mental block, not being able to see today's whole picture.

Craig 2008-01-28 05:21 PM

I don't know if this would satisfy you - I think you're really looking for a feature that OF doesn't have - but here's an idea anyway:

Could you view your due actions, select them all, flag them, then view your flagged actions? Wouldn't that furnish the list you want?

sfkeydel 2008-01-28 09:34 PM

[QUOTE=Craig;32061]I don't know if this would satisfy you - I think you're really looking for a feature that OF doesn't have - but here's an idea anyway:

Could you view your due actions, select them all, flag them, then view your flagged actions? Wouldn't that furnish the list you want?[/QUOTE]

Craig, I'm not sure I understand your suggestion fully. I think what people are asking for is the ability to see just those actions that are due today, along with any flagged actions with any conceivable due date (or none, for that matter). Would your suggestion allow people to see only those actions due today plus any flagged actions, as one discrete list?

Using the "View" toggles, it's currently possible to show a task that is:
a. due today
b. due today AND flagged
c. due today NOT flagged
However, you can't show a list of tasks that are due today OR flagged, this being what folks on this thread appear to be requesting.

Cheers!

Craig 2008-01-29 03:32 AM

[QUOTE=sfkeydel;32067]Would your suggestion allow people to see only those actions due today plus any flagged actions, as one discrete list? [/QUOTE]

Yes, but only because you will have [B]added[/B] flags to the due today items. I recognize that this solution may bring in new problems of its own, but I just offer it as a possible way of creating the one list that is being sought.

sfkeydel 2008-01-29 04:44 AM

[QUOTE=Craig;32072]Yes, but only because you will have [B]added[/B] flags to the due today items. I recognize that this solution may bring in new problems of its own, but I just offer it as a possible way of creating the one list that is being sought.[/QUOTE]

Okay, got it. And not a bad solution, but as you note, it does create a few other issues.

aleding 2008-01-31 03:44 PM

So all of this is really good input but I think what I'm hearing overall is that the filtering need to be MUCH more flexible and available for more fields than it currently is.

Right now, it looks like we are limited to filtering only on the [COLOR="Blue"][I]Status, Time, & Flagged[/I][/COLOR] fields. We need to ADD AT LEAST [I][COLOR="Blue"]Start Date & Due Date[/COLOR][/I] as well as POSSIBLY [I][COLOR="Blue"]Added Date, Completed Date, Changed Date, Next Start, & Next Due[/COLOR][/I] (the last two I am assuming are different than the initial Start and Due Dates).

I tend to use the app a little differently that what I have read here. I like to set my [COLOR="Blue"][I]Start Date[/I][/COLOR] to be when the activity goes active and then move this date forward as things don't get done. So, as you can probably imagine, I MUST be able to filter based upon [COLOR="Blue"][I]Start Date[/I][/COLOR].

In any event, I sent an EM to Omni as well so let's all hope for good fortune...

brianogilvie 2008-02-03 05:34 AM

[QUOTE=aleding;32221]Right now, it looks like we are limited to filtering only on the [COLOR="Blue"][I]Status, Time, & Flagged[/I][/COLOR] fields. We need to ADD AT LEAST [I][COLOR="Blue"]Start Date & Due Date[/COLOR][/I] as well as POSSIBLY [I][COLOR="Blue"]Added Date, Completed Date, Changed Date, Next Start, & Next Due[/COLOR][/I] (the last two I am assuming are different than the initial Start and Due Dates).[/QUOTE]

You can already filter on start date. Actions or projects whose start date has not yet arrived are not available, so if you have the Available actions or projects filter applied, they will not appear.

Furthermore, you can group and sort by start date.

BTW, Next Start and Next Due are for repeating actions or projects; they tell you when the next start date and next due date will be if you complete the action/project now.

tokyowagon 2008-05-04 10:44 PM

I also agree with kimomni's suggestion. Like sabeke, I, too, came to the forum today to look this same need.

I'm really hoping this feature will be included in the next update. It is sorely needed.

Toadling 2008-05-05 07:24 AM

[QUOTE=sfkeydel;32003]I've been toying a bit with Things, which offers a very clean 'Today' view. GTD orthodoxy be durned-- I think this is a good idea.[/QUOTE]

I'm puzzled by Things' "Today" view. To me, it looks like nothing more than a way to flag actions: click the little star icon and the item shows up in the Today list. How is this any different than OmniFocus' ability to flag items?

EternalLearner 2008-05-05 09:39 AM

I agree
 
Yes, I could really use the ability to sort with an OR function.

Thanks for the suggestions...

sfkeydel 2008-12-06 09:00 AM

[QUOTE=Toadling;36304]I'm puzzled by Things' "Today" view. To me, it looks like nothing more than a way to flag actions: click the little star icon and the item shows up in the Today list. How is this any different than OmniFocus' ability to flag items?[/QUOTE]

Hi Dennis,

I'm just coming back from an abortive experiment with Things, and I think the advantageous element in Things' Today view is that actions that are scheduled to begin 'today' will automatically show up in the view. As Craig noted, you can accomplish this in OmniFocus by flagging everything that starts today and then using a 'flagged' perspective (or I suppose you could simply set 'today' as a start date for everything you want to flag). However, the simplicity of Things' implementation is definitely superior, including the ability to click 'Not Today' and have the item return to its previous state (i.e. its original set of attributes).

DutchVince 2008-12-06 10:12 AM

[QUOTE=kimomni;31774]
How can I set up one window that shows all of my flagged items and all of my items that have due dates for today?
[/QUOTE]

Yes, I would like this feature too.
Did you send a formal request to the appropriate mail address?
Works better than placing a request in the forum.

WillisRB 2008-12-15 12:05 PM

I agree completely with the requests of this thread. The custom perspective described would be a perfect immediate attention list from which to operate, and then once these are taken care of to open it up to broader options.

My question is whether this could be solved by a script, but unfortunately I know nothing about the details of scripting. If anyone knows, I would be very appreciative of any feedback.

But essentially, would a script which automatically flagged all 'due today' or 'due within 1 week' solve the problem? And then you could simply sort by the Flagged filter.

Thanks.

Andrew Scott 2008-12-21 11:04 PM

[QUOTE=sfkeydel;52119]Hi Dennis,

I'm just coming back from an abortive experiment with Things, and I think the advantageous element in Things' Today view is that actions that are scheduled to begin 'today' will automatically show up in the view. As Craig noted, you can accomplish this in OmniFocus by flagging everything that starts today and then using a 'flagged' perspective (or I suppose you could simply set 'today' as a start date for everything you want to flag). However, the simplicity of Things' implementation is definitely superior, including the ability to click 'Not Today' and have the item return to its previous state (i.e. its original set of attributes).[/QUOTE]

Reading this thread, and this post in particular, made me realise why I keep oscillating between Things and OmniFocus. I like the structure that OF offers but really like the simplicity and transparency of Things. To be honest I lean heavily towards Things but keep coming back to OmniFocus when I get fed up with the slow development of Things. Then I get frustrated by the relative opacity of OF on the iPhone, chiefly because of the need to skip constantly between Due Soon, Overdue and Flagged, and switch back to Things for a while.

I guess [URL="http://www.tuaw.com/2008/12/18/the-hit-list-takes-aim-at-omnifocus-and-things/"]The Hit List[/URL] will introduce yet another blend of arrangements to this increasingly crowded space.

frankns 2009-01-06 05:30 AM

I've been oscillting back and forth between the OF and Things as well ...

I HAVE to have a simple, reliable look at things that must be done today.

I manage a small IT group with a mix of projects from long-term to daily break/fix. A quick list what's due today makes it possible for me to organize my time simply and effectively.

When I identify an item in OF that is due today ... and then have to search for it later in my tree of projects or with an extra filter ... it's just not worth the time ... precious time I sometimes don't have.

Then ... I go back to thinking that Things is my solution.

curt.clifton 2009-01-06 06:32 AM

[QUOTE=frankns;53221]
When I identify an item in OF that is due today ... and then have to search for it later in my tree of projects or with an extra filter ... it's just not worth the time ... precious time I sometimes don't have.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps you already knew this, but you can double click items in Context view to open a new window showing the item within its project in Planning view. That doesn't solve the main issue of this thread, but seems like it might help with this particular issue.

CatOne 2009-01-06 07:56 AM

+1 on this. Things view is effectively the "due soon" view combined with "any flagged items" view. One that could OR the two groups together would be highly useful.

This is another reason why I keep dabbling with Things. I'm "Not getting things done" because there are strengths and weaknesses to each application... and right now absent actual GTD like Curt is doing, the simplicity of Things offers LOTS to me, but the dearth of features brings me back to OF every time... so far ;-)

frankns 2009-01-06 12:22 PM

Good point ...

Thanks


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