Setting screen font vs. print/export font [A: text zoom coming in OO4.]
 

I like large fonts on my screen so I set whole-document font to 14pt. However, on export to RTF or Word, 14pt is too big.

It would be helpful if there was an option to scale down fonts for export. Any plans for this or something similar?

[QUOTE=gmiddleton;78977]I like large fonts on my screen so I set whole-document font to 14pt. However, on export to RTF or Word, 14pt is too big.

It would be helpful if there was an option to scale down fonts for export. Any plans for this or something similar?[/QUOTE]
That would be really helpful. I love OO and use it regularly. This or a "zoom" feature would be great.

This feature has been requested by many people for YEARS now! It is one of the few places where Omni has been unresponsive. Awhile ago the company said they did not implement because of the problems with scaling some non-text items in outlines (can't remember the exact wording). All that said, apparently zooming will be a feature in OO4. Who knows when that will come out, but hopefully within the next 6 to 9 months.

I'm afraid that OmniOutilner is obsolete. Too much time to update, to develop.. I love this app and sometimes I feel like that. This feature is a common request. Keep waiting.

One can easily install a button on the OO3 toolbar which toggles the font size of the 'whole document' style back and forth between a screen size and a print size.

Edit the first two lines of the following to match your preferred sizes (mine are 16pt for screen and 12pt for print), save it as an applescript, and install the script on your OO3 toolbar.

Each time you click it the font size will switch.

[CODE]property pScreenSize : 16
property pPrintSize : 12

tell application id "OOut"
tell documents
if (count) < 1 then return
tell attribute "font-size" of style of item 1
if value is pPrintSize then
set value to pScreenSize
else
set value to pPrintSize
end if
end tell
end tell
end tell[/CODE]

Rob: Thanks! That works great.

Rob: I've been using OO with real joy again today. Your script has solved all my outliner problems! I wish Omni had provided something like this years ago. And I don't know much about scripting myself—but I truly appreciate the thoughtfulness you've given to providing the rest of us with a very elegant solution.

[QUOTE=mitchellm;79712]Rob: I've been using OO with real joy again today. Your script has solved all my outliner problems! I wish Omni had provided something like this years ago. And I don't know much about scripting myself—but I truly appreciate the thoughtfulness you've given to providing the rest of us with a very elegant solution.[/QUOTE]

It's a pleasure ! (just a simple fragment of code)

(oo3 seems a really excellent piece of work to me, and with the scripting interface you can generally make it do pretty much what you want ...)

[QUOTE=mitchellm;79700]Rob: Thanks! That works great.[/QUOTE]
Mitch,
I am having trouble installing the font size toggle script on the OO3 toolbar. I would greatly appreciate any help you can provide. I am running Mac X 10.6.5 and OOP 3.6.5. Thank you.
Bill C

[QUOTE=BillC;86431]Mitch,
I am having trouble installing the font size toggle script on the OO3 toolbar. I would greatly appreciate any help you can provide. I am running Mac X 10.6.5 and OOP 3.6.5. Thank you.
Bill C[/QUOTE]

Perhaps if you describe the trouble we could offer some help without having to play a guessing game. Also, why are you running such an ancient version of OmniOutliner? If it is truly 3.6.5, it is over 2.5 years old, and has none of the Snow Leopard compatibility changes.

I copied Rob Trew's Toggle script, pasted it into Applescript Editor on my computer, compiled it, saved it as a script to the desktop. I tested it and it works, now that I have installed OO3.9.5 - Thanks to you.

To create a "toggle" button in OO3, I open the program, go to the <view> command and open <customize toolbar>. When the customize toolbar window opens, I try to drag the toggle script icon from the desktop onto the top toolbar. However, a white plus sign with a green background does not appear and as soon as I release the icon, it returns to the desktop. It will not stay on the toolbar. Any idea what I am doing wrong?
BillC

You don't drag it from the desktop, you drag it from the list of available buttons in the Customize Toolbar window. You may have to scroll down to find it.

Ah, and rereading your message, I see the other half of the problem! You need to save the script in the appropriate folder, which is not your Desktop, but rather Library/Scripts/Applications/OmniOutliner (in your home directory). This folder will not exist if you have not previously installed scripts in OmniOutliner, and the Scripts/Applications hierarchy will not exist if you haven't saved scripts previously for other applications. Either make the folders by hand, or use the procedure detailed in this post: [url]http://forums.omnigroup.com/showthread.php?t=7453[/url]

Note that you have to follow the directions very carefully with regard to which application is running when you do various steps! That post describes installing scripts for OmniFocus, but the procedure is the same, just substitute OmniOutliner wherever you see OmniFocus.

whpalmer4 and RobTrew,

Thanks so much for your help. I can now use OO and enjoy it. Not being able to use it was ruining my life - seriously. The "Toggle" switch works great.

Dr. BillC

PS YOU GUYS ARE GENIUSES!

I copied Rob Trew's Toggle script, pasted it into Applescript Editor on my computer, but it won't compile. I keep getting an error message that reads: Expected end of line but found".

It highlights the quotation marks before the word "font-size" on the fifth line of code. I know next to nothing about writing code. What am I doing wrong?

[QUOTE=cladach_gorm;87799]I keep getting an error message that reads: Expected end of line but found".[/QUOTE]

Sounds as if something might have been inadvertently left behind in the copy and paste - possibly concealed by the scrolling code display.

Here is a compiled copy.

Rob -
I downloaded your file on this and installed it. It works perfectly. Don't understand why the good people at Omni didn't formalize this ages ago (but then I don't get why we don't have cloning either...)
Many thanks.

Stephen

Zooming Text
 

Is there a way to zoom the text so that the view has a bigger text.

I realize that you set the font size bigger or use the cntrl/mouse combination but I was looking for the conventional zoom function to make text on the page appear bigger while working on the document.

I looked under view, edit and window but don't see any capability.

Thanks

Not currently supported, but we do have a feature request open on this. Email the [EMAIL="omnioutliner@omnigroup.com"]support ninjas[/EMAIL] to attach yourself to the request. (All other things being equal, requests with more customers attached tend to get higher priority.) Thanks!

merging this thread with another one about the same feature request.

How do I make view larger?
 

The view in my omnioutliner is smallish. Is there a feature similar to what I might find in the lower left corner of iWorks documents that allows me to view a larger onscreen version of my document?

The lack of zoom in OmniOutliner is a hardy perennial, and a source of much frustration and dysfunctional eye-strain, which should, at last, be fixed when OO4 is ready ...

In the meanwhile, I use the Applescript in [URL="http://forums.omnigroup.com/showthread.php?t=16554"]this thread[/URL] to toggle between a larger (screen) view and a smaller (print) view.

Thank you for taking time to reply.

This is probably the primary reason I use OmniOutliner less and less. It is probably the only programme on my drive that doesn't zoom, and it is a UX nightmare.

If one is printing at 10 or even 12 pixels, the document is nearly unreadable on Apple's laptop screens. Changing font size is not an option unless all styles are the same point size.

It really makes me wonder if the product manager for Omni has ever used a 13-inch MacBook with OmniOutliner.

I especially like the iPad version, but the Mac app is, as you say, obsolete. I don't think it's changed or improved in years.

Interesting. I thought it was just me, and my lack of experience ... although I seem to be be experiencing a conundrum reciprocal to the issue described here.

My screen size font is considerably larger than my print size. I never bothered to figure this out because I RARELY print Omni Organizer documents.

[QUOTE=qomni;109566]Interesting. I thought it was just me, and my lack of experience ... although I seem to be be experiencing a conundrum reciprocal to the issue described here.

My screen size font is considerably larger than my print size. I never bothered to figure this out because I RARELY print Omni Organizer documents.[/QUOTE]

what are 'Omni Organizer" documents?