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Melan 2008-10-05 12:03 AM

network syncing as new iphone sync alternative?
 
[quote]Enabled Local-network syncing as a new sync type. This won't work with OmniFocus for iPhone until the next version (v1.1) is released. But, you can test this on your local network between multiple Macs to help ensure that any bugs get found sooner rather than later.[/quote]

I'm not sure if I get this, but does this mean when 1.1 goes live we'll be able to sync iphone and mac omnifocus without the need for mobileme or WebDAV?

curt.clifton 2008-10-05 05:20 AM

That's how I read it. The Sync Pref Pane in OF desktop says:

"OmniFocus v1.1 for iPhone can sync with MobileMe, Bonjour, or WebDAV."

whpalmer4 2008-10-05 06:20 AM

[QUOTE=Melan;48336]I'm not sure if I get this, but does this mean when 1.1 goes live we'll be able to sync iphone and mac omnifocus without the need for mobileme or WebDAV?[/QUOTE]
Yes, but you'll be restricted to doing it "locally" -- you won't be able to sync when your computer is at home and you're out running errands or sales calls, for example.

Melan 2008-10-05 07:41 AM

That's just what I was hoping, thanks for the confirmation. Science be praised!

Lizard 2008-10-05 02:48 PM

Yes, curt.clifton and whpalmer4 are basically correct. The only detail I would add is that not only do the iPhone and Mac need to be "local" in a geographic sense, they need to be "local" in a networking sense. For most people, this means they need to be connected to the same WiFi base station, or you need to turn on Internet Sharing on your Mac and connect to it from your iPhone.

(There are some more complicated configurations that could work, but that's the sort of thing to ask a networking guru about, not Omni.)

ext555 2008-10-05 03:08 PM

I"m thinking this would work the same way that " things " wi-fi sync works , create a temporary local network on the mac , change the wi-fi on the iPhone to the temp network and it syncs as soon as you open the program.
It's much faster than mobile me syncing , but more of a hassle .
Plus the sync is only local and not in the " cloud " .

but since OF is the only thing I use Mobile me for , I'll gladly put up with the wi-fi hassle than pay apple 100 bucks a year .

mmurray 2008-10-06 01:13 AM

[QUOTE=ext555;48356]I"m thinking this would work the same way that " things " wi-fi sync works , create a temporary local network on the mac , change the wi-fi on the iPhone to the temp network and it syncs as soon as you open the program.
It's much faster than mobile me syncing , but more of a hassle .
Plus the sync is only local and not in the " cloud " .

but since OF is the only thing I use Mobile me for , I'll gladly put up with the wi-fi hassle than pay apple 100 bucks a year .[/QUOTE]

I have Air Sharing and iSilo which also work like this. They create a webdav server (I think) on the iPhone which the mac can connect to either as you describe above or over the network if the iPhone and Mac are both on the same subnet.

Michael

ohammersmith 2008-10-06 07:57 AM

I hope you all will excuse some shameless self-promotion.

I had this same problem, so I set up my own WebDAV server. Problem was it wasn't secured (SSL), so I added that... and that drove the cost up for just myself to more than MobileMe... so I thought why not sell space there and even out my costs. :)

Yes, it'll be a pay service. But, it'll be a lot cheaper than MobileMe. At least, that's the plan. I need some beta testers to size out how much server it'll take to support a given number of users.

If you're interested, [URL="http://getsyncin.com"]check out the site, Get syncin'[/URL], there's a survey form linked from the front page, I'll use that to start inviting some folks when I'm closer to ready.

JKT 2008-10-06 08:44 AM

Is this going to be an all or nothing situation - if you use Wi-Fi you won't be able to synch using 3G/non-local Wi-FI while out and about? Or will you be able to do both?

Lizard 2008-10-06 10:07 AM

The short answer is yes, you need to pick one and stick with it.
The longer answer is that technically you can switch at any time, but any time you change syncing methods, you'd probably want to sync all your machines, then switch it over on each machine and sync them all again.

One of the main purposes of the local Bonjour sync is to save people from paying for a WebDAV service if they don't need to. If you're already paying for MobileMe or something similar, there may not be much reason to switch to Bonjour syncing. There are only a couple technical advantages to local syncing: (1) It's probably a little faster on average. (2) Your data is not up on some third-party server, which may make you sleep better at night.

JamieBurr 2008-10-08 03:21 PM

This is all loud and good music to my ears, the impending ability to sync using bonjour and not mobile me or a web dev server. So this is active when 1.1 is released, so I am on the sneeky peek 1.1 which I guess is sort of beta. Anyone have any idea when 1.1 will be released?

I am fast running out of time on my free 3 month subscription to Mobile.me. All fingers crossed, and love omnifocus.

Lizard 2008-10-08 04:39 PM

This is active for the desktop now in 1.1, and we're winding down towards releasing that as a 'final'. You can use it now if you only sync Macs, no iPhones or Touches.

If you need to keep an iPhone/Touch in sync with your Mac(s), then you need to wait for a 1.1 version for iPhone/Touch to be available on the App Store. We expect to finish that up soon too.

JamieBurr 2008-10-08 05:18 PM

Cool, thanks for your reply Lizard. I do need it to sync my iPhone with my mac, so will the 1.1 version soon to appear in the app store be a free update to my iPhone OF app?

Andrew 2008-10-08 05:51 PM

Yes, 1.1 will be a free upgrade.


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