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torlundgren 2011-11-12 02:52 PM

Problem (bug?) with subtracting shapes
 
I'm trying to subtract one custom shape from another. In this case, it is the 'eye' of a rabbit (where the rabbit is A and the eye is B):

[url=https://skitch.com/metolius/ger4p/hom-logo][img]https://img.skitch.com/20111113-e2783qnac79kg2t3tshwh4ijdy.preview.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://skitch.com/metolius/ger4p/hom-logo]Click for large view[/url]

When I try to subtract shapes, it doesn't work – it just beeps, like it can't make that happen.

However, if I move the eye off to the side, so that it no look is completely inside the rabbit, like this:

[url=https://skitch.com/metolius/ger5y/hom-logo-9][img]https://img.skitch.com/20111113-nbdqyq8jni3m24gq9igqe7x8mg.preview.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://skitch.com/metolius/ger5y/hom-logo-9]Click for large view[/url]

then it works:
[url=https://skitch.com/metolius/ger4t/hom-logo][img]https://img.skitch.com/20111113-dg47pduy685uk7f9jdpnf62n3y.preview.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://skitch.com/metolius/ger4t/hom-logo]Click for large view[/url]

I've tried this on smaller custom shapes (with a dozen dots or two) and this is no problem at all. I can add lot's of 'holes' to a custom shape, and there is no issue.

Is there some sort of limit to the complexity, or is this a bug?

torlundgren 2011-11-12 02:59 PM

I just redid this with a 'cruder' rabbit:

[url=https://skitch.com/metolius/ger59/hom-logo][img]https://img.skitch.com/20111113-xh66a95emhe85jcx5epn9ia4k5.preview.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://skitch.com/metolius/ger59/hom-logo]Click for large view[/url]

and it seems to work.

Is there some limit on the number of points in the custom shape, or is there something else?

torlundgren 2011-11-14 08:38 AM

I'm going to try to 'add' points to the cruder rabbit and see what happens.

I have a sneaking suspicion that what is happening is that the shape gets 'corrupted' at some point, with a 'bad' point.

The reason I think this is that I've observed a handful of odd things:

1) sometimes when you try to add a point to a complex shape, the point does not appear under the mouse tip, but on another part of the drawing, usually the adjacent one.

2) when I subtract a small shape from a big shape (like the rabbit one shown here), I can get it to 'work' such that the result is only the 'eye'. Obviously, what I want is sort of the opposite – I want the eye removed from the big shape – but it seems like OmniGraffle is having trouble because the big shape (the 'rabbit' in this case) has some problem with its points.

3) one other thing happened when I tried to pull some points around, but it is too complicated to describe – I'll get a screenshot when I see it again.

torlundgren 2011-11-15 02:42 PM

I submitted a 'feedback' from the OmniGraffle program and included a link this forum entry.


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