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hardcoreUFO 2009-03-04 11:46 AM

Proper ad blocking
 
At the moment, when OW blocks an ad, it leaves a hideous white box where the ad used to me. This sort of defeats the purpose of blocking, I think:

[IMG]http://img.skitch.com/20090304-d5pdqskfwdwq7cns17wnenpekh.jpg[/IMG]

Is there any way of making the box gracefully disappear, as with other ad blocking systems?

Drayon 2009-03-04 12:36 PM

[QUOTE=hardcoreUFO;56115]At the moment, when OW blocks an ad, it leaves a hideous white box where the ad used to me. This sort of defeats the purpose of blocking, I think:

[IMG]http://img.skitch.com/20090304-d5pdqskfwdwq7cns17wnenpekh.jpg[/IMG]

Is there any way of making the box gracefully disappear, as with other ad blocking systems?[/QUOTE]

I hope you expect something must be shown, else you may never know if a legitimate non ad image is being blocked.

hardcoreUFO 2009-03-04 12:44 PM

[QUOTE=Drayon;56118]I hope you expect something must be shown, else you may never know if a legitimate non ad image is being blocked.[/QUOTE]

No, I dont. I want a clean, readable web page, and not a page of empty boxes. Have a look at what GlimmerBlocker or Safari AdBlock does and you will see the difference. If I want to see if there are any "false positives", I can turn off the blocker and reload the page.

robotank 2009-03-12 08:23 PM

You've mentioned GlimmerBlocker, so why not just use that? It works perfectly well with OmniWeb. In fact, I've turned off OmniWeb's integrated ad-blocking completely because I too prefer not to have those placeholders remain on the page. There are now enough filters available for GlimmerBlocker for it to achieve full-fledged blocking and replace OW's built-in blocking.

hardcoreUFO 2009-03-12 08:52 PM

[QUOTE=robotank;56641]You've mentioned GlimmerBlocker, so why not just use that? It works perfectly well with OmniWeb. In fact, I've turned off OmniWeb's integrated ad-blocking completely because I too prefer not to have those placeholders remain on the page. There are now enough filters available for GlimmerBlocker for it to achieve full-fledged blocking and replace OW's built-in blocking.[/QUOTE]

You are right, and thats what I would do if I decided to use OW full time. However, that's not fixing OW's ad blocking, that's using something else.

Handycam 2009-03-13 03:09 AM

[QUOTE=hardcoreUFO;56645]You are right, and thats what I would do if I decided to use OW full time. However, that's not fixing OW's ad blocking, that's using something else.[/QUOTE]

This doesn't make any sense. If you like GlimmerBlocker, and it works the way you want, and it works with OW or any browser, then just use it as he said.

What difference does it make then if OW is "broken" as you say?

It doesn't need to be "fixed" if you can completely avoid the "broken" aspect, does it? If BP gasoline doesn't work well in my car, but Exxon works great, I just use Exxon. Do I insist BP improve its gas?

hardcoreUFO 2009-03-13 05:43 PM

[QUOTE=Handycam;56654]This doesn't make any sense. If you like GlimmerBlocker, and it works the way you want, and it works with OW or any browser, then just use it as he said.

What difference does it make then if OW is "broken" as you say?

It doesn't need to be "fixed" if you can completely avoid the "broken" aspect, does it? If BP gasoline doesn't work well in my car, but Exxon works great, I just use Exxon. Do I insist BP improve its gas?[/QUOTE]

The point is, OW's ad blocking does not work very well, so the Omni folks might like to fix it or get rid of it. What is nonsensical about that?

JKT 2009-03-14 01:10 PM

For some of us it is ad blocking that doesn't show you what and where something has been blocked that is broken. Especially if you block Flash by default. So there isn't anything for OmnGroup to 'fix'. Add an option to collapse blocked content for those that want it, but don't do it by default or get rid of the current method for those that don't.

robotank 2009-03-14 03:32 PM

I agree with the above poster. Obviously OmniWeb's developers don't see its ad-blocking method as "broken" or they'd probably change it. Having the option to tweak ad-blocking behaviour would be a nice feature to see added in the future, but for now I'm content to use GlimmerBlocker as an alternative without seeing OW as needing to be fixed.

Brian 2009-03-16 04:31 PM

The thinking behind the current behavior is that it preserves the original layout as created by the designer, as well as giving the visitor something to click if they want to see something we've blocked. Call the boxes "hideous" if you must, but it's by design.


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