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Beckes 2007-08-09 10:35 AM

A plea for activating the <enter> key
 
Hi there,

just a half-baked feature request: Omni "ought to do something" with the <enter> key (as opposed to the <return> key), pressing which seems to have no effect at all at present.

For instance, one might use it to send off entries from the quick entry panel, basically assigning to <enter> the meaning of two <return>s in sequence. This would also come handy when entering new tasks while planning a project.

So <enter> --> complete entry in the highlighted field and save record.

What do y'all think?

Best regards,

Klaus

curt.clifton 2007-08-09 10:51 AM

[QUOTE=Beckes;19027]
So <enter> --> complete entry in the highlighted field and save record.

What do y'all think?
[/QUOTE]

In OmniOutliner, the [B]enter[/B] key toggles editing of the note field. In OF that sort of works. If you have a row selected and are not already editing the item title, then [B]enter[/B] opens the note for editing. But in OmniOutliner the [B]enter[/B] key switches to note editing even if you are already editing the item title. I would like to see OF work the same way, including in the quick entry bezel. (I submitted a feature request for that behavior several weeks back and was told that it was planned.)

Beckes 2007-08-09 11:29 AM

Seconded, for consistency between the Omni apps.

But let us have something like <cmd>+<return> for a quick way out of the "quick" entry panel.

Klaus

curt.clifton 2007-08-09 12:06 PM

[QUOTE=Beckes;19037]
But let us have something like <cmd>+<return> for a quick way out of the "quick" entry panel.[/QUOTE]


Just in case you missed this, you already have Cmd-S.

Beckes 2007-08-09 10:07 PM

[QUOTE=curt.clifton;19042]Just in case you missed this, you already have Cmd-S.[/QUOTE]

So I do, but this does not work when entering new actions in the projects or context views. You still need to hit <return> several times. I would like to see a shortcut here, and for it to be the same shortcut as in the quick entry panel.

curt.clifton 2007-08-10 04:02 AM

[QUOTE=Beckes;19060]So I do, but this does not work when entering new actions in the projects or context views. You still need to hit <return> several times. I would like to see a shortcut here, and for it to be the same shortcut as in the quick entry panel.[/QUOTE]

I don't get the "several" bit. The most I can come up with is hitting <return> twice--once to select a proposed context quick-pick and again to leave editing mode. The first <return> keypress confirms the quick-pick. After the quick-pick, editing mode for the item remains active so one can tab to the next cell. Also note, that you can press <esc> at any time to leave editing mode, as in OmniOutliner. So you already have a one keypress way to leave editing mode.

Of course, <esc> is the key to cancel the QuickEntry bezel, which is a problem.

It seems that the issue comes down to this. In QuickEntry, a new item behaves exactly like in OF proper. But once you leave editing mode within QE, then the bezel behaves like a standard dialog with <return> for confirm and <esc> for cancel. So an inadvertent extra press of <esc> can toss out your new action. (This behavior can be changed with preferences. Perhaps its safest to turn off the esc-to-cancel preference. I think it is off by default.)

sprugman 2007-08-10 07:28 AM

if you turned off esc-to-cancel in quick entry, how would you leave the quick entry panel and cancel if you change your mind? It can be done by clicking, but I'd want to be able to use the keyboard....

Craig 2007-08-10 09:08 AM

[QUOTE=sprugman;19082]if you turned off esc-to-cancel in quick entry, how would you leave the quick entry panel and cancel if you change your mind? It can be done by clicking, but I'd want to be able to use the keyboard....[/QUOTE]

Cmd-. always cancels.

sprugman 2007-08-10 06:10 PM

oh. waddya know. okee-doke. (though escape seems more intuitive to me)

brianogilvie 2007-08-10 06:55 PM

Well, Cmd-. has been a "cancel" command in the Mac OS since, well, as long as I can remember (and I bought my first Mac, an SE with 2 400Kb floppy drives, in 1987).


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