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Originally Posted by Frosty Crunch

What I hate about the standard HIG Apple way of doing things is not only that you need to do two steps to adjust a column (adjust the column and then the window), but you can't get the window perfectly adjusted. You always seem to have to make it a few pixels too wide to get the horizontal scroll bar to disappear. Being a neatness freak, I hate that sliver of unwanted space there!

You must be referring to Tiger as this is no longer the case in Leopard (or at least it doesn't have to be). As ptone mentioned earlier in this thread, Apple Mail's implementation (at least in Leopard) is EXACTLY how column resizing should work. It's pretty much perfect.

Originally Posted by Frosty Crunch

Your average users like the current behavior, I think.

Well, that's a gross generalization. I can't believe you have any kind of evidence to back up that claim other than gut feeling. And my gut feeling tells me that the "average user" would probably prefer the standard behavior, if for no other reason than that's the way nearly all other apps behave.

Originally Posted by Frosty Crunch

I think this forum has a large percentage of interface geeks in it who pride themselves at noticing this stuff and exhibiting their superiority by complaining about it -- the sort who spaz out at the semitransparent Leopard menu bar.

Surely, you are among that group as well? FWIW, I don't have any issues with Leopard's transparent menu bar, although I may be guilty of the other accusations. ;-)