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Originally Posted by MacBerry
I can't see how it's useful except on the very rare occasions when what you want happens to be lined up with that hole.
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Well, things are lined up with that hole because I intentionally put them there knowing that I'll be able to easily access them without having to invoke Exposé to see the entire desktop. After all, as you mentioned, every little step adds up. :)
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Wow, I know people work differently, but the idea of having a big hole in an apps interface just so you can see something behind it is completely alien to me!
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Originally Posted by MacBerry
What I think you may be saying is that you don't like to work full screen anyway, so therefore you have room for the inspector. That's fine, especially if you're used to a 9" screen as you mentioned before, but I've come the other way (20" screen minimum before getting my MacBook Pro), and find full width the minimum.
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Yes, that's really the gist of it: I don't like to work full screen, never have really. I know the full screen approach is popular in Windows, but coming from a background of some 22 years on the Mac, I'm a diehard multi-window user. To me, that's the whole point of having a windowed interface with many, special-purpose apps and windows all doing their own thing at the same time.
Admittedly, I do occaisionally go full screen. Apps like iCal, iPhoto, and Logic Pro all eat up screen space to no end and love to fill up my display. Sometimes I get soft and just let them have it their way, sort of like allowing my kids to eat that extra cookie. :)
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Originally Posted by MacBerry
That's fine, especially if you're used to a 9" screen as you mentioned before, but I've come the other way (20" screen minimum before getting my MacBook Pro), and find full width the minimum.
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I remember seeing someone mention a 9-inch screen too, but it wasn't me. I guess my original Mac Plus had a 9-inch screen back in 1986, but I've long since upgraded. Wow, 512 x 342 pixels used to seem like a lot and now we have icons larger than that! :D
More recently, I've worked on a 20-inch Cinema Display, a hi-res 17-inch MacBook Pro, and my current 15-inch MacBook Pro. The temptation to go full screen on the 15-inch MBP is greater than on those other screens, but I still prefer to have multiple windows visible at once.
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Not to mention the fact that I find having other windows visible behind what I'm working on a destraction
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That's never really been an issue for me. I guess it's a matter of what you're used to.
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The only safe place for the inspector, the only place it's guaranteed not to cover something I want to see, is outside the main window, but that means reducing the size of that window unacceptably to make room for it.
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Yeah, I don't mind having the inspector on top and toggling it on and off, but I can see your point. But I also don't have all the columns displayed in every perspective in OmniFocus, so I don't really need the window to be as wide as some like it. For example, I only show the the Due column in my "Due Soon" perspective but not in my other perspectives.
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Originally Posted by MacBerry
I'm not arguing for taking the inspector out, so you could still have it for editing multiple items, just for giving us a more useable alternative for single item editing and viewing...All that's needed is for them to put all info in both, and make inline auto-collapse/expand (auto could even be an option if preferred).
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OK, I could live with that. It seems like we could then have the best of both worlds. There's maybe a small increase in complexity, but it doesn't seem like that would be too much.
Ken mentioned a UI overhaul coming up in the not-too-distant future. I wonder if something like your proposal might come under consideration.
-Dennis