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Thanks...I did try installing the "Extras" included with AHPro...still did not work.

Did clean installs (ie, downloaded new versions, quit old versions, moved old versions to trash, removed icons from dock, emptied trash, then installed new versions, a lot of overkill here), still no joy.

Workaround of using OW5.1.3 or Safari2.0.4 is ok, just would like to figure out what is wrong with my install of SP17 since it works for you.

Looked at Package Contents, noted that there is a "Launcher" executable not present with OW5.1.3 or Safari, but there is none with WebKit13302 either, so that doesn't seem worth pursuing further.

Since this is an SP version, I'll contact Rogue Amoeba and just reference WebKit builds, not OW SP.

thanks again for your input.