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Anastas

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Originally Posted by anastas View Post
Yeah, probably not "all" users. I think it depends on how you use OG. Not every time, but often when I use it I always have little symbols that are usually placed in the corners to represent some feature or characteristic.
First let me say that I have your need, I produce drawings such as those you describe, all the time. I use OG exclusively to produce such drawings, but I have no need for the proposed feature. It takes me one click or one drag to add or change such symbols to shapes on my diagrams. I do not think I misunderstand your drawings or your need at all.
Refer attachment. The simple symbols are simply Fonts (yes, it is a good idea to use simple modifiers) and the complex symbols are from my stencil (Chris Heath's Glass Buttons Stencil plus my mods); and yes I do have many more modifying symbols.
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Since the size and proportions of those shapes change (considering the dynamic nature of OG links) it would be good if those things were continuously associated with a specific justification, such as right top corner.
1 the size/shape of shapes (which are symbols themselves) in a semantic diagram should not change and should not be variable (lest you lose the concept of semantic!), but I will set that aside for now.
2 Just group the shape with the modifying symbols. Following that, the behaviour (size, proportion, justification, etc) should be as expected when changed, and require no further effort from you.

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I think it's hard to visualize this feature without having it made
Well, it might help to draw one up so that we can communicate about the exact details. I butchered an existing diagram to produce the attachment, took me a full 15 seconds (the upload took minutes to organise).
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since it depends a lot on the speed at which you can add these icons.
My shapes and modifiers are all sitting in a Stencil. It takes me:
either one click and drag to add these symbols or modifiers
one click to change a simple shape
to change (replace) a complex shape: one click plus ⌫ keystroke; followed by one click and drag to add the new one

The Legend takes a minute or two.

(It is such a small effort to add/change these modifiers, these symbols that add meaning to shapes, that therefore I do not need the proposed feature. I already have it in OG, the number keystrokes cannot be reduced further.)

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Can you explain what you meant by
"When you want to change an object from one shape to another, it takes just one click in OG (via the Inspector/Styles/Lines&Shapes)."
Sure. Let's use a simple shape (without symbols or modifying symbols) in order to avoid complicating this simple task/operation:
draw a simple circle using the Shape drawing tool from the toolbar.
notice that in the inspector, the Style/Fill, Style//Lines&Shapes, Style/Shadow and Style/Summary have all opened up, because a circle can be manipulated using all those properties.
the circle which we are going to change needs to be selected
in the Inspector, select the Style//Lines&Shapes tool; it will show, in the third segment from the top, a list of Shapes possible
click on say a square
There, with one click you have changed a Shape into another Shape.

This works with complex or grouped Shapes as well, you need to "click through" the layers to select the simple shape within the group.

Cheers
Derek
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Last edited by DerekAsirvadem; 2010-09-30 at 03:20 PM..