[Jesse the K]

Originally Posted by Handycam

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Those "3d" light blue folders were always ugly as sin.
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And the talk about confusing icons - how many do you guys put in the toolbar anyway? Me, I just have back, forward, reload, and home. Everything else can be accessed with hotkey or menus.

There are a variety of interests here, and it's possible to meet all of them.

• Aesthetic gratification & artistic expression
• Functionality for all values of "user"
• Flexible working styles (keyboard, mouse click, menu selection)

I certainly don't want Handycam to curse a hideous interface every time an OmniWeb window opens.

I hope posters here can appreciate that large distinctive icons work well for those of us with vision and memory impairments. (Keyboard shortcuts and menu options impose an extra memory load, since they're hidden.) For those of you thinking, "geez, how hard can it be to learn one more keybinding?" I hope you never slip, hit your head, and find out.

When the OmniGroup program-wizards create a variety of preferences (or AppleScript install applications to swap out icon sets) then all users can tune this lovely app to what we need.

[Handycam]

When the OmniGroup program-wizards create a variety of preferences (or AppleScript install applications to swap out icon sets) then all users can tune this lovely app to what we need.

FWIW, you can access all the icons at Contents>Resources. In fact, I've been swapping the old default icons for Jon Hicks' icons for years.

[cleverdevil]

Originally Posted by Handycam

FWIW, you can access all the icons at Contents>Resources. In fact, I've been swapping the old default icons for Jon Hicks' icons for years.

I have been doing the same. I just downloaded my first 5.7 sneakypeek, and I was pleased to see the new icons. They are considerably better than the old ones, although still not as good as Jon Hicks'.

Have the OmniGroup folks taken a look at Jon Hicks' icons? They are a bit closer to the Leopard style. I would actually like to see some icons that basically match those found in the Leopard Finder toolbar. It would give OmniWeb a much more seamless look.

That, and the bookmarks bar is a stark white in comparison to the new Leopard grey-ish window style. This is a bit off-putting, but I have no suggestions on what might look better.

[Jon Hicks]

My previous icon sets look a bit dated now, Leopard has brought with it very particular button styles and they don't quite fit in. However I would point to Coda as good example of a mac application that gets it without looking too much like Safari.

[Bill Van Hecke]

Hi folks,

I just added a new revision of the icons, pretty greatly adjusted based on feedback from you guys and from around Omni. Thanks, and keep the feedback coming! There's still a lot of room for improvement, I think.

[andreas_g]

the new icons look much better now. but still i don't really like them. i think they should be more "shiny" an should have a more OS X like look (transparent looking elements/colors etc like they were made of glass).
for now they still remind me a little bit of Win XP, which is not a good thing. maybe there is a way to improve this, and still be leopard friendly.
(i can't test on leopard, still using 10.4)

[Jon Hicks]

These are looking better - the white highlights help them look crisper, but they still feel like the wrong direction. The History icon looks 'quilted' rather than being a flat calendar, as does the bookmarks icon.

However looking at the UI's for other Omni applications, OmniFocus and OmniPlan in particular, Omniweb still feels left behind. You almost wouldn't know it's been made by the same people. Those apps feel aesthetically up-to-date (talking UI as well as icons now) and I would love, LOVE, Omniweb to take that direction too. I'm at the point where it's only aesthetics that prevent me using OW full time.

[philonous]

Originally Posted by cleverdevil

That, and the bookmarks bar is a stark white in comparison to the new Leopard grey-ish window style. This is a bit off-putting, but I have no suggestions on what might look better.

Stark? Hmmm.... Perhaps OG could convince Philippe Starck to design the new icon set. That's the only thing that's missing from his portfolio: browser icons. Think about it. That's an important thing to have in your design portfolio these days.

He's designing another restaurant in LA, just down the street from me actually. Now that I think about it, his designs are not exactly affordable. So, maybe the icons alone would make for a paid upgrade to OW....

One thing is for sure. Strack's web site is decidedly unimpressive.

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[Schlaefer]

Something is fishy with the Tabs icon from the beginning, but I'm not shure what. How's about that:

[owuser]

What about the idea of adding a menu item in the 'Appearance' section of OmniWeb's Preferences that gives the user a few choices of icon sets? The user could select a theme, be informed that changes won't happen until the browser is restarted (if required), then after doing so be presented with a new set of icons that could be more to their liking. Off the top of my head, for example, there could be 'Classic', 'Professional', 'Safari-Like', and 'Colorful'. Most other browsers have multiple themes, at least the mainstream ones anyway, and giving the users a few choices would be a great way of pleasing a larger group of people.

I understand something like that might be too big of a project to implement in a 5.x release, still it might be something to start thinking about for Omniweb 6.

Thoughts?