[Lucas]

Originally Posted by MacBerry

I may be completely wrong, but Lizard's response worries me.

I don't pretend to speak for anyone else, but I think that it is more that people using the software take a lot of details in this software very seriously and have the potential to get upset about a lot of different things, and that the developers also took those concerns very seriously when doing the best job that they could.

In other words, I don't think that anyone would accuse them of being lazy or sloppy.

[MacBerry]

Originally Posted by Lucas

I don't pretend to speak for anyone else, but I think that it is more that people using the software take a lot of details in this software very seriously and have the potential to get upset about a lot of different things, and that the developers also took those concerns very seriously when doing the best job that they could.

In other words, I don't think that anyone would accuse them of being lazy or sloppy.

Oh I don't think either of them. I just wondered if maybe they've listened too much to a very vocal group of early adopters, rather than keeping in mind the wider range of needs of more "normal" users and/or newbies. Early adopters are by definition never newbies, as they've grown up with the software.

I know just how difficult it can be - I grew up with Pocket Informant on the Pocket PC, and really did struggle sometimes to see or even accept the views of newcomers. I wasn't alone either - there was a danger for a while of a clique forming that defended "that's how it's always been done" at all costs. Fortunately the developer AND some of us in the potential clique stopped it, but it took a real effort of will.

[ext555]

I agree with Curt , I think the mail implementation is a nice way to present time as being " optional " .

I personnaly was among the person saying first we don't need time in column view. But since now, using seriously OF on my macs and iphone, i realize it could be really usefull to be able to get it in some perspectives (when i'm working on my day list and not reviewing all my stuff in a project and so on).

So i guess the mail way to implement it would be great since Perspectives (correct me if i'm wrong) remember columns states.

Or at least just a checkbox in the preferencies ?

Thanks a lot omni

Sincerely

Yann

[whpalmer4]

One suggestion was to have the start/due columns behave like the date column in Mail; when narrow, you just get the date, and when sufficiently wide, you get the time as well. Would that work for you? If so, use Help->Send Feedback in the program to "vote" for it. Stuff sent to the forum isn't necessarily tracked by Omni's developers, but feedback through that mechanism is.

[DJ-Rizzo]

I sent feedback asking for this functionality. I am also posting here to bump the topic up and encourage other's to send the same feedback if they agree it would be helpful.

[Toadling]

If you're running OmniFocus 1.7 or later, you can turn on time display for date columns with this Terminal command:

defaults write com.omnigroup.OmniFocus RelativeDateFormatterShowTime YES

If you change your mind and want to return to the default of date only, use this:

defaults delete com.omnigroup.OmniFocus RelativeDateFormatterShowTime

You will need to restart OmniFocus for the change to take effect.

-Dennis