[pgflmac]

First, I really complement OmniGraffle. It is a great program, but alas it is just more than I need (simple boxes and circles). I really appreciated the trial - at first. Now I am pretty sure that even though I deleted all the files that were installed - everything named *omni* - it still looks like OmniGraffle installed a hidden file or modified something.

When you begin the trail period what does the OmniGraffle do? I'm guessing it is not taking up much space on my crowded MBA but I am quite annoyed I cannot delete all traces. This is something I expect on Windows.

How do I get rid of ALL traces of OmniGraffle being on this computer?

[Joel]

The trial period information gets written to the system's global settings, so it's not in a separate file, it's just a little information in an existing plist.

[pgflmac]

Could you explain in more detail? What info is written in what file? What do you mean by "system's global settings"? What plist is that?

Is this documented someplace? This is so much like Windows registry but even more secret. This is quite disturbing to me. Mac apps are not supposed to do this kind of thing. Are there other undocumented things changed on MY computer?

[whpalmer4]

Get serious. You expect them to tell you (in a public forum, no less!) how the copy protection on their expensive application works so that you can get rid of every trace, including the one that you can only detect by trying to run the application? If you're really interested in getting rid of every trace, you could restore from your last backup prior to installing the demo.

As for your claim that "Mac apps aren't supposed to do that" someone apparently forgot to inform Apple!

[pgflmac]

I do not expect an application to leave stuff behind that cannot be deleted. I do not expect it to modify any system file. I expect it to explicitly warm before.

There are plenty of other ways to copy protect including an encrypted license file in plane sight. The app will not run if not there and valid and it can be completely deleted. Plenty of apps do it.

So yes.

Do a complete restore? Are you nuts? What about all the work that was done since then on other things. Are you nuts? I would be happy to restore the file they messed if the told me what it was, correctly.

If you think for a second if a complete system restore would work it would defeat copy protection any how. Think.

Again, I want to DELETE the app not use it!!! Geesh.

Look, this looks like a really nice app for graphic types that want to do professional highend charts. I just need to draw a few boxes and circles. It is just more complicated than what I need.

[Ken Case]

We've designed our software to offer a two-week trial without requiring any special license keys. In order to provide a two week trial, our software has to keep a persistent record of when those two weeks begin.

We can't afford to let everyone extend the trial indefinitely by removing the record of their trial. If you need an extended trial yourself, please contact sales@omnigroup.com and we'll be happy to offer you more time.

The exact mechanics of how we track your trial period are confidential and proprietary, as are other details of our licensing system. You accepted these terms when you accepted our license agreement before running our software.

We can assure you that the trial record will not adversely affect any operation of your system; you can simply remove our software to stop being affected.