I think that's a mockup of what it might look like if the thread starter's suggestion were taken up.
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2008-08-14, 05:44 AM
I think that's a mockup of what it might look like if the thread starter's suggestion were taken up.
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Ah, no. This is on a 15 inch MacBook screen, so to make the most of the main window I'd have it full screen if I could. BUT, to accommodate the inspector without having it appear over the top of the main window (with the resultant need to move it about all the time), I have to give it space to the right of the main window.
So although it reduces in height depending on the info in it, all that does is reveal what's behind it. The wasted space is created by the width, not the height. Here's a full screen shot, with only my desktop behind OF, to better illustrate the point: If you close the inspector, how do you edit fields that only appear in it? Mark Last edited by MacBerry; 2008-08-14 at 05:58 AM..
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I have a long standing request for an icon in the main view, akin to the parallel/sequential indicator and flags, that indicates repeating projects/actions. Clicking it would bring up a small pop-up for changing those settings. I don't mind going to the inspector for setting review frequencies or for mass operations on multiple items. (It seems like mass operations would be harder to do with an in-line display of data.)
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I don't do mass changes, and I could be wrong but I doubt many people do. Perhaps you could give an example of what you mean? If it's mass changes like changing context, that can be done with multi-select>drag.
Context view doesn't have columns of course, so without the inspector you can't change the start date for example. I don't often, but I think many people do. Mark
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2008-08-14, 07:56 AM
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And you don't need to move the inspector window around all the time. Just toggle it with the handy key shortcut (Command-Shift-I). In that respect, it functions very similarly to the inline info approach you mentioned earlier, except that the inspector can operate on multiple records at once and allows you to see more info than could be shown inline without pushing the rest of your contents down and offscreen. I don't mean to imply that inline info is bad. It'd be nice to have as much as possible inline. Cultured Code's Things does that pretty well. But that additional info should be completely collapsible because it can waste a lot of space by displaying too much detail. I'm not interested in seeing those bits of data most of the time, which is one of the reasons I think the Things interface feels clunky. I really don't like to have the rest of my content moved around or pushed offscreen by the huge amount of space the selected action consumes. Incidentally, a right-hand drawer/sidebar also suffers from the drawback of reducing space in the main content area (relative to the size of the main window) and even shifts content around if the drawer/sidebar is toggled when your main window is set to full screen. Quote:
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I think all of the proposed solutions have their pros and cons. But, IMHO, the inspector windows is still the best (least troublesome?) approach, despite its drawbacks. -Dennis Last edited by Toadling; 2008-08-14 at 08:17 AM..
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2008-08-14, 08:32 AM
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I do what you describe useing Expose - mouse to top right to expose the WHOLE desktop, grab what you want, mouse to top right to re-hide the desktop, drop. If I want something from finder, it's the same except I mouse to bottom right, or hover over the finder icon if a window isn't already open. I can't believe what you want is below that 60 x 150mm (max) hole very often! What I think you may be saying is that you don't like to work full screen anyway, so therefore you have room for the inspector. That's fine, especially if you're used to a 9" screen as you mentioned before, but I've come the other way (20" screen minimum before getting my MacBook Pro), and find full width the minimum. Not to mention the fact that I find having other windows visible behind what I'm working on a destraction - this is OmniFocus we're talking about after all ;) Quote:
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One of my biggest issues with the current design is that it's neither one thing nor the other. We have both inline and inspector, and can edit and view some but not all things in both. It's totally inconsistent. All that's needed is for them to put all info in both, and make inline auto-collapse/expand (auto could even be an option if preferred). Quote:
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Actually you're right - I didn't realise I could do that in context view because they don't actually appear as columns with a header row. But of course the more I turn on, the more validity my argument for being able to work full width has ;)
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2008-08-14, 09:19 AM
Alternatively, the more columns you turn on, the less often you need the inspector, and thus the "put up the inspector only when you need it" argument gains strength...
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As it is, Omni are trying to second guess which info I need to see inline, and which I need in the inspector, and obviously they're bound to guess wrong for a proportion of people. Last edited by MacBerry; 2008-08-14 at 09:32 AM..
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