The Omni Group
These forums are now read-only. Please visit our new forums to participate in discussion. A new account will be required to post in the new forums. For more info on the switch, see this post. Thank you!

Go Back   The Omni Group Forums > OmniOutliner > OmniOutliner 4 for Mac
FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

styles Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
i find the new styling system completely bewildering. :confused::(

how do i select all the rows at a particular level and decide on the style attributes for that level - the way i do with oo3?
Sorry we don't have any documentation yet! OmniOutliner 4 has adopted the style method we implemented with the iPad version. The system used in OO3 that allowed the "level X rows" style involved way too many additional option that caused much confusion.

Everything works off of named styles now. If you select a named style in the sidebar and look at the Style inspector, you'll see three options at the bottom: Include styles, Style children as, Style next row as.

Include styles allows you to basically make a named style group, you can make one named style inherit the attributes of as many other named styles as you want.

Style children as is the option you're interested in here. This is how you can get the same automatic level styling. Create a named style for each row level you want, you can even name them "Level x rows". Then select your level 1 row style and set the Style children as to your level 2 row style. Continue this chain for as many levels as you want. Once that is done, in the document inspector set the Top-level row style value to your level 1 row style. This will apply that named style to all existing and future level 1 rows made in that file. You now have automatic level styling for your document.

Style next row as can be used to alternating row styles. If you set up two named styles that set each other for this value, it will alternate between the two as you make new row after each one. This could be used for say a Q&A list or such.

We're planning to create placeholder named styles pre-configured to do level styling in the default template so you can essentially use them like the option in OmniOutliner 3.

Let me know if you have any questions about this. Thanks!
thanks very much Derek, for your reply. excellent clarifications. i realise that this is a majorly different approach to the one i'm used to, and i guess i'll have to get to grips with it by playing.

i'm not 100% convinced yet that the new system will be any less confusing than the old, but that's perhaps because of its unfamiliarity at the moment.
We just added empty named styles for levels 1-5 to the default template. So, unless you've modified the template yourself, after you update any new documents should have these already. You can simply select them in the sidebar and use them like you did in OO3. You'll have to manually add additional styles to get beyond level 5 though.
i appreciate this - i was so confused before - didn't know where to start. in the documentation - when it comes out, i think it may be necessary to advise people used to OO3 that how styles are used in v.4 involves an entirely new approach. i was getting quite frustrated .
I'm glad you posted this. . . . I am a long time OO users and I still can't figure it out! I'm using (159.0.182914)

My outline looks like this

My first level 1
A level 2
A level 2
My second level 1
A level 2
A level 2

I see Heading 1, Heading 2, etc in the side bar. Are headings the same as levels?

I want all first level items to have the same styling. I can't figure it out.

Edit: After spending :10 minutes, I understand how the styling works. However, I don't know how to change existing text.

In particular, how do I select everything at a particular level?


Last edited by steve; 2013-04-15 at 10:39 AM..
I can't figure out how to include row numbering as a style. Everytime I select a syle in the sidebar, I can modify font size, row spacing, etc., but all the row numbering options are grayed out.

Is this a bug? Or am I overlooking something?

Originally Posted by brygoose View Post
I can't figure out how to include row numbering as a style. Everytime I select a syle in the sidebar, I can modify font size, row spacing, etc., but all the row numbering options are grayed out.

Is this a bug? Or am I overlooking something?

What exactly have you tried selecting in the sidebar? The row numbering option will be disabled if you select a column style. But for any named style, or the Whole Document style, it should be available.
The level styles used in OmniOutliner 3 have been added back into OmniOutliner 4. Based on user feedback and our own exploration, we decided it was best to restore these. We have not removed any functionality from named styles themselves though and existing files will continue to function the same way. However, your existing files will likely have two sets of "level styles" now. The named styles labeled Level 1-5, and "Level X rows" right underneath the Whole Document style.

If you were using the named styles I would recommend switching to using the real level styles instead. Unfortunately, there is not an easy way to make this transition at the moment. As always, if you need any help with this, feel free to contact support.

Thank you for sending in your feedback!
Thanks for this switch. Compared to OO3, this has been very challenging.

Is there any way to select all instances of a particular level?


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Diagram styles with different styles TimBonnici OmniGraffle Extras 0 2013-04-11 07:59 AM
Help - Styles (again!) Simon Knight OmniOutliner 3 for Mac 1 2010-11-29 05:26 AM
Problems with styles nomad_penguin OmniFocus 1 for Mac 6 2008-08-31 08:41 PM
Default Styles... StoneRoseDesignDotCom OmniOutliner 3 for Mac 7 2007-01-30 12:41 PM

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:42 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.