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Relative dates like "today" "tomorrow" "yesterday" can be entered in the fields of user-defined date columns in OO3.

There seems, however, to be a bug in the assignment of times to such dates ...

"Today" works as expected - assigning a time of "00:00", (which is incidentally the convention consistently used for start dates in OmniFocus)

"00:00" is also the time set if I manually enter a date like 06/06/2011 without specifying a time.

So far so good ...

"Yesterday" and "Tomorrow", however, both assign "12:00", creating an inconsistency in the data.

In fact, "last" and "next" (week month and year) all set a time of 12:00, while "Today" and manually entered literal dates set 00:00 ...

[As an aside, it becomes even more complex - if we use Cmd / as a shortcut for entering today's date in a user-defined date column, even though no time is visible, a timestamp for the moment of use has been entered - but there is no trace in the data of which of these various date entry methods was used ...]

This inconsistency is an obstacle to simple filtering by date. If I filter rows for dates assuming a default time of "00:00", I will catch any that happen to have been set using a relative date of "Today", or a timeless date like "06/06/2011" but miss any that happen to have been set using other relative dates like "yesterday" and "tomorrow" or next or last week/month/year, or entered using Cmd /.

It seems unlikely that these inconsistencies are entirely by design ...

I don't have a strong view of what the default time should be (a mild preference for 00:00 perhaps) but a little more consistency and predictability would certainly be helpful.

(An option in Preferences, perhaps, as for the time of due dates in OmniFocus ?)

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Last edited by RobTrew; 2010-07-04 at 06:07 AM..
Should anyone want to 'clean' their date data (consistently normalize all unspecified times down to a base value like "00:00" or "12:00") this can, of course be done with applescript idioms like:

on TimeLess(dteTime)
	date (short date string of dteTime)
end TimeLess

Last edited by RobTrew; 2010-08-08 at 02:02 PM..
Yeah, the inconsistency is definitely a problem. Writing this up. Thanks, Rob!
Hmmmm... I'm actually having trouble reproducing this.

Fired the app up with default preferences - v1.8, current sneaky peek.
Made a new project.
Showed start/due date columns
made "last year/month/week" actions, "yesterday/today/tomorrow" ones, and "next week/month/year" ones.

Used the keyboard to set the start date and due date for each row to the text that corresponded to the title of the action. For all 9 actions, I got 12AM in all the start cells, and 5pm in all the due cells.

Rob, what do you have set for your "default due time" preference. Maybe that's a factor? But if you're getting this in start cells as well, there's something else going on. :-/
Tried again, this time entering the text into the inspector instead of the completion cells in the outline; same results.

I'm sure my repro steps are a bit off here, Rob - pointers appreciated. :-)

No cookie for Brian. :-)
Originally Posted by Brian View Post

No cookie for Brian. :-)
Aha ... I was becoming puzzled :-)

(My fault for referring to two apps in one post ...)

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