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velvet 2008-05-15 02:04 AM

OF Mail clippings vs. Mail Act-On
 
The OF clippings works fine for me. With a predefined shortcut in OF I can send a mail message to OF (thanks to OmniFocus MAil Clip-O-Tron 3000 I guess).

As soon as I install the Mail Act-On plugin bundle, the OF clippings service is no longer available via shortcut. It is still available from Mail / Services menu.

Does anyone know a how can I bring that OF Mail Clippings shortcut functionality back again, while having Mail Act-On bundle installed?

It probably needs some new Mail Rule definition (?)

smorr@indev.ca 2008-05-15 04:10 AM

Make sure the OF rule is before all the act-on rules in Mail's rule lists

I am working on Act-On 2 which will complete separate Mail's rules and Act-On rules so this issue won't arise again. :)

velvet 2008-05-15 04:22 AM

Hi thank you for your reply.
I am quite sure, that I had the OF rule before all the act-on rules in Mail's rule lists. And anytime I recalled my "OF clipping" shortcut (like ctrl+C for example), the Act-on window showed up for a while with message, that no such act-on rule is set up for the "C" key.

I forgot to mention I am not on Leopard yet. I am on 10.4.11

velvet 2008-05-15 04:31 AM

But it is working now!
I uninstalled the Act-On bundle, disabled and re-enabled Mail Clip-O-Tron, and moved the OF Mail Rule to the 1-st place, so it is my 1-st mail rule.
It works and I am really glad for it. So thank you for both making a great act-on bundle as well as helping me find the workaround :)

stzenni@me.com 2008-12-18 03:46 PM

I'm sorry, I still have the same problem and I'm missing something.
I just used the clipping shortcut in OF to capture mail messages. No OF-Mail rules active. My shortcut was ctrl-L .
After installing Mail Act-On 2.02 that shortcut was no more active: "No found shortcut" is, more or less, the message from Mail Act-On.
I tried to unistall Act-On, but after uninstallng it and restarting Mail, the simple ctrl-L cliping shortcut, and *any* clipping shortcut, don't work no more!
Is there way to have just the OF clipping shortcut working while mail Act-On is active?
I'm not a nerd with OF but this time I need a step by step help...

Thank you very much
Stefano

stzenni@me.com 2008-12-19 05:50 AM

Update: the problem arises only on my MacBook and not on the iMac. Why....????

arietext 2008-12-26 03:40 AM

I have the same problem as Stefano. And even worse. The whole clipping service does not work. I have Mail Act-On 2.02 and Mail Tags 2.2.3 installed.

I also need a step by step help...

Thankx
Arie

kalkanis 2009-08-26 11:52 AM

[QUOTE=arietext;52826]I have the same problem as Stefano. And even worse. The whole clipping service does not work. I have Mail Act-On 2.02 and Mail Tags 2.2.3 installed.

I also need a step by step help...

Thankx
Arie[/QUOTE]
i have got the same problem. did you eventually find a solution?

stzenni@me.com 2009-08-27 01:58 PM

I solved it many months ago and I don't clearly remeber how. Probably I unistalled the clipping plugin from OF, then unistalled Mail Act-On, then installed them again. But I can't remeber in which order. But now everything is fine, so there is a way to solve the problem :-)

msim 2010-10-03 06:12 PM

i am still having this problem. when i set a shortcut for clip-o-tron with ctrl-key in it, mail act-on takes over.

i decided to set alt-2 as the shortcut for clip-o-tron. now a strange thing happens. i launch mail.app and hit the shortcut - there is a ding sound and nothing happens. then i go to the services menu and select "sent to OF". that works. and thereafter, alt-2 as a shortcut works also.

strange. i am sure there is a way to solve this problem of "having to teach mail.app the shortcut for clip-o-tron".

anybody got clues what is going on?

whpalmer4 2010-10-03 06:26 PM

[QUOTE=msim;86735]

i decided to set alt-2 as the shortcut for clip-o-tron. now a strange thing happens. i launch mail.app and hit the shortcut - there is a ding sound and nothing happens. then i go to the services menu and select "sent to OF". that works. and thereafter, alt-2 as a shortcut works also.
[/QUOTE]

My guess is that you did not have a message selected in the list, or the focus was in the wrong pane. That will get you the beep, and when you happen to click on the message list before using the services menu, suddenly everything works!

If the message in the list is not highlighted in blue, the Clip-o-tron won't work, and you'll just be using the regular clipping service if and only if you've got some text selected.

msim 2010-10-03 07:22 PM

[QUOTE=whpalmer4;86736]If the message in the list is not highlighted in blue, the Clip-o-tron won't work, and you'll just be using the regular clipping service if and only if you've got some text selected.[/QUOTE]

I am very certain that I have the message highlighted. And I even uninstalled mail act-on. still the same behavior - (right after launching mail.app, the shortcut does not work. then when i launch the same shortcut using services menu, that click works. and thereafter the shortcut works also.)

Any thoughts on what else to look for?

whpalmer4 2010-10-03 07:57 PM

Take a look at the services menu before you try to do anything. What does it show?

msim 2010-10-04 07:14 AM

[QUOTE=whpalmer4;86740]Take a look at the services menu before you try to do anything. What does it show?[/QUOTE]

this is what looks like. i guess you are giving me a clue as to what to fox, but i didn't get it :(

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whpalmer4 2010-10-04 08:45 AM

You said earlier that you were using alt-2 as the shortcut, did you change it? In any case, I asked you to have a look at that so we could know that Mail was starting out with a shortcut assigned, and that it is the one you expect. If that is true (the first part certainly seems to be), and you really have a message selected in the message list and that is the frontmost window and invoking the clipping shortcut still produces nothing but a beep, you should call up the support ninjas and see what they have to say.

msim 2010-10-04 09:09 AM

i did change the shortcut from alt-2 to ctrl-0.
will call support as you advice.

thank you!

lage 2010-11-14 06:42 AM

Solution?
 
[QUOTE=msim;86735]i am still having this problem. when i set a shortcut for clip-o-tron with ctrl-key in it, mail act-on takes over.

i decided to set alt-2 as the shortcut for clip-o-tron. now a strange thing happens. i launch mail.app and hit the shortcut - there is a ding sound and nothing happens. then i go to the services menu and select "sent to OF". that works. and thereafter, alt-2 as a shortcut works also.

strange. i am sure there is a way to solve this problem of "having to teach mail.app the shortcut for clip-o-tron".

anybody got clues what is going on?[/QUOTE]

I think I just had that problem and solved it. The problem for me was that MailActOn "capture" all shortcuts in Mail.app that includes the ctrl-key. But when I went to the keyboard-settings panel in OSX (or whatever it's called in english, I have a swedish system) and then add a shortcut to the menuitem "OmniFoucs: Send to Inbox" (the same shortcut by the way), then it suddenly works and MailActOn doesn't notice it.

/lage


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