[Toadling]

Oh, one more niggling cosmetic issue: love the new attachment file names but they can get a bit out of control if the file has a very long name. Maybe they could be wrapped or truncated with full reveal on mouse-over? Or maybe have the option to position the label to the right of the icon, as can be done in the Finder?

I've been meaning to submit this as feedback but never got around to it.

-Dennis

[Ken Case]

Originally Posted by Toadling

Oh, one more niggling cosmetic issue: love the new attachment file names but they can get a bit out of control if the file has a very long name. Maybe they could be wrapped or truncated with full reveal on mouse-over? Or maybe have the option to position the label to the right of the icon, as can be done in the Finder?

Sounds like a fine suggestion, though not something I'd want to hold back 1.7 for.

[webalstrom]

I finally felt brave enough to try to 1.7 SneakyPeek today. The download/installation went just fine, however none of my perspective showed up. I looked for the ".loaded" file (or whatever the name is... can't recall it offhand but I knew what I was looking for) and it was not there. (And yes, I had invisible files turned on.)

I was able to switch back to 1.6.1 with no problem. It even preserved the few changes I made to my OF file. And my perspectives were all back.

I did like what I saw in 1.7, especially the new perspective editor. I did not particularly like the new view bar (too dark, too much screen space). Is there away to go back to the old style (a secret Terminal hack?).

I think the perspective transfer is a big issue which needs to be resolved before making 1.7 official.

Just my 2 cents worth. (And help getting my perspectives to transfer over would be greatly appreciated!)

Eric

MacBookPro
Mac 10.5.8

[whpalmer4]

Webalstrom,

which version of the SP did you use? I know Ken fixed at least one bug in this area last night (and did away with the ".loaded" file in the process, it appears). How did you determine that your perspectives didn't transfer? Did you look in the Perspectives window, or at the Perspectives menu? They won't be installed in the toolbar by default, so if the absence of perspective buttons in the toolbar was how you concluded they didn't transfer, you may have been misled.

[Ken Case]

Originally Posted by whpalmer4

I know Ken fixed at least one bug in this area last night (and did away with the ".loaded" file in the process, it appears).

Actually, what I did was to make the code more careful about only writing the .loaded file after it successfully saved the new perspectives to the new database after loading them. When I saw your message this morning (sorry I didn't reply!), I investigated further and discovered that while we were loading the old perspective, we weren't saving it yet because the database was in the process of being loaded. So I restructured the code a bit to make that work, and you should start seeing .loaded files again in r117865 and later.

[whpalmer4]

Originally Posted by Ken Case

Actually, what I did was to make the code more careful about only writing the .loaded file after it successfully saved the new perspectives to the new database after loading them. When I saw your message this morning (sorry I didn't reply!),

I'd rather you fix bugs I report than reply to my email, if I have to choose one or the other :-)

I investigated further and discovered that while we were loading the old perspective, we weren't saving it yet because the database was in the process of being loaded. So I restructured the code a bit to make that work, and you should start seeing .loaded files again in r117865 and later.

Rerunning my tests with 117867, I agree that it seems to work as you describe, and I haven't found any more holes.

[webalstrom]

Originally Posted by whpalmer4

Webalstrom,

which version of the SP did you use? I know Ken fixed at least one bug in this area last night (and did away with the ".loaded" file in the process, it appears). How did you determine that your perspectives didn't transfer? Did you look in the Perspectives window, or at the Perspectives menu? They won't be installed in the toolbar by default, so if the absence of perspective buttons in the toolbar was how you concluded they didn't transfer, you may have been misled.

I know the perspectives do not load in the toolbar, but they were not in the P-window or P-menu either.

I downloaded the SneakyPeek this morning (Wed, 8/26) and my Get Info says its version 77.32.0.117860.

I hope this helps.

[whpalmer4]

Originally Posted by webalstrom

I know the perspectives do not load in the toolbar, but they were not in the P-window or P-menu either.

I downloaded the SneakyPeek this morning (Wed, 8/26) and my Get Info says its version 77.32.0.117860.

Try it again with the current version, please. We don't want Ken slacking off before his work is done :-)

[omnibob]

I think this is tied into behavior with 1.6, when you choose a default perspective, -- I'm trying to get the latest 1.7 build going with (v77.32.0.117867), and am still waiting for my perspectives to all open from the Finder after 1.5 hours -- anyway, I'm seeing what I think will be my perspectives carried forward from 1.6, showing up staggered in the Finder.

When I open a bunch of TextMate, or whatever, docs, I often stagger them manually, so I have some alliance with this, but for OF, I always want to be able to see the default perspective/window in its glorious fullness, and not have it slip under the always needed (for me) Inspector window. So no staggering, I say! Flush left, and let the user navigate the windows via the menu.

thanks

Bob

[Ken Case]

Originally Posted by webalstrom

I think the perspective transfer is a big issue which needs to be resolved before making 1.7 official.

Agreed!

Could you double-check whether your perspectives import when using r117865 or later?